Big freakin elephant
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philologus
Subgenius
I worked on it for a year prior to entering it. It was actually probably like 200 hours or so. Thanks for the kind words.
Highbulp Billy
New member
It\'s a beautiful beast and 200 hours well spent. I love the way that you\'ve made a big model quite dynamic - you quite expect to see it toss its head and send the Rohirrim flying across the battlefield. The warpaint is done really well too. Great job :beer:
Shawn R. L.
New member
Very dramatic. Cool warpaint.
hubbabubba
New member
It\'s great, why didn\'t you post more photos?
philologus
Subgenius
I couldn\'t without losing the detail or overwhelming the size constraints. I didn\'t want to piss off anyone by posting multiple submissions as that is generally frowned upon by the voting community. Thanks for your comments though! Update: She went for $500.00 on Ebay! Sweet!
airhead
Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
I would not have been upset to see photos of the hooda (sp?) or the head and the driver. Yea, I remember a purple dragon that must have had 30 submissions all from about the same angle - that got old quick - but if you were showing different parts, I don\'t think anyone would get upset with 3 or 4 submissions. I can see where it would be hard to get them with in one with the file size limit.
Or -
How about an off-site link?
philologus
Subgenius
I could do that. How do you work them photobucket account thingies? Any good recommendations for photohosting pages?
I will not submit any pictures for voting att CMON, if I want feedback, I\'ll ask people in real life. Why?
1: A mini seldom looks as good on a photo as in reality
2: CMON:s voters are fair and unfair in one holy mixture, not ideal for judging.
And I don\'t see the problem with me voting a 5. There is no superb brushwork, look at the guys in the howdah and on the skin. I neither vote at the size of the mini, the age of the painter nor who the painter is. I vote on the mini and how it looks, you got a problem with that?
I find it silly when people vote 10 and 8 just because \"the model is so large!\" or \"at your age, this is great!\".
Compare to a race.
Michael and George raced, George got first, but Michael won, because he had been racing less than George.
Age, size, painter - it doesn\'t matter, \"cool mini or not. not cool painter or not.
airhead
Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
@hygmer, your avatar\'s halo is slipping.
1. I\'ve seen lots of these minis up close and held a few in my hands. They often look even better IRL than after the photo lights wash out the details and flatten the contrast. I will also say you paint different for photo work than for real life judging - so it is often unfair to the GD minis.
2. Granted, but it averages out.
2.a. You are entitled to your opinion. If you think a major rework of a sculpt and a complete scratch-built driver is \'table-top\' quality, then I want to play on some of your tables - does every mini have 200 hours put into it? Do you ever complete an army? Most of the table-top play around here involved a can of krylon. Maybe a few areas of detail are added if the player has time.
2.b. Granted. Vote the mini. I do give a point for a first mini. But large minis have diferent problems in painting than smaller ones. If you will notice, several GD winners do not score extreemely well here. Again, the problem of minis painted to be seen or painted to be photoed.
My painting has gone from below 5\'s (deservidly) to above 7\'s - not because I post here, but because I asked better painters for help and read their tutorials.
1. I\'ve seen lots of these minis up close and held a few in my hands. They often look even better IRL than after the photo lights wash out the details and flatten the contrast. I will also say you paint different for photo work than for real life judging - so it is often unfair to the GD minis.
2. Granted, but it averages out.
2.a. You are entitled to your opinion. If you think a major rework of a sculpt and a complete scratch-built driver is \'table-top\' quality, then I want to play on some of your tables - does every mini have 200 hours put into it? Do you ever complete an army? Most of the table-top play around here involved a can of krylon. Maybe a few areas of detail are added if the player has time.
2.b. Granted. Vote the mini. I do give a point for a first mini. But large minis have diferent problems in painting than smaller ones. If you will notice, several GD winners do not score extreemely well here. Again, the problem of minis painted to be seen or painted to be photoed.
My painting has gone from below 5\'s (deservidly) to above 7\'s - not because I post here, but because I asked better painters for help and read their tutorials.
tide of khorne
New member
Awesome man! Do you have more pics?
Time really don\'t matter either, result matters. And you really think scratchbuilding a model is such a grave affair?
Do I ever complete an army:
Truly, this is irrelevant, but I\'ll answer anyway: Yes, at 3 diffrent occations.
During my starting years, I completed an High Elf army of around 2500pts
3 years ago, I finnished 1700pts ov Vampire Counts.
Last year, I did my Chaos army, which got up to 2000 pts.
If we go back to the elephant:
Obviously, my TT-standard is higher than yours. I dont consider \"the right paint at the right place\" to be TT. No, for me, ít needs to be better than that, for me that is.
The elephant is huge, yes, but drybrushing-marks do show, and I spit at drybrushing on other things than chainmail and sand, since I don\'t appreciate the (cheap) technique. Also, I lack smooth highlights and a sense of detail. With such a huge model, more details could well be added.
The tusks, for instance, look like plain Bleached Bone with a highlight of white followed by some work on the tips. Why not scratch them first, then paint, then glaze slightly to take out grains and scratches? The little people on the howdah (they look little anyway) lack detail to, the faces must be really small due to covering cloth, but really, subtle shading and lighter highlights do the trick very well.
The base to could use more work. I never liked molded bases, and franky, they don\'t look to good, some sand and dead grass could pull it up a bit.
I do understand my voting stirred things up a bit, but still, the world ain\'t picture perfect now, is it?
@Phi*smiley*ogus - Nice Heffalump 
Some nicely done conversion ideas that IMO really improved what I consider a rather static sculpt. You really gave it some life. And I\'d like to point out that I\"m not saying this either because it is so large or because you are so much younger than I am.
@my fellow CMONers - While you may not agree with Hygmer, at least give him/her credit for coming back and explaining the reason for his (I assume) vote. He didn\'t just give it a \"drive-by\" 1 or 2 or something asinine like that. This place would be pretty dull (and irrelevant) if we all agreed about everything.
@Hygmer - I would point out that it IS a lot easier to make claims of incredibly high standards and to slag off other peoples work when you choose to hide yours and not face up to the same criticism.
(this is why I don\'t slag off other peoples work )
Some nicely done conversion ideas that IMO really improved what I consider a rather static sculpt. You really gave it some life. And I\'d like to point out that I\"m not saying this either because it is so large or because you are so much younger than I am. @my fellow CMONers - While you may not agree with Hygmer, at least give him/her credit for coming back and explaining the reason for his (I assume) vote. He didn\'t just give it a \"drive-by\" 1 or 2 or something asinine like that. This place would be pretty dull (and irrelevant) if we all agreed about everything.
@Hygmer - I would point out that it IS a lot easier to make claims of incredibly high standards and to slag off other peoples work when you choose to hide yours and not face up to the same criticism.
(this is why I don\'t slag off other peoples work
)