bit of osl practice, honest (and brutal) opions wanted

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generulpoleaxe

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thought i would have a mess around with a mini and base the mini around the osl.

bit of a big step for me as i only usualy do faint glows etc (yes i\'m a lazy git, i knowlol )

just want peoples honest opinions and advice. :)

http://www.coolminiornot.com/144882
 
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matty1001

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The refections are to bright, it makes it look like he is glowing and it takes the attention away from the lamp.
Good job though!
 
green stuff

green stuff

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I think in general the picture is hurting the paintjob. It looks like the contrast is turned on to high.

Also, it seems like the light is coming from everywhere not just the lantern.

Finally (and it might only be a case of too much contrast), you usually paint smoother (the robes are a bit blunt).

That was for the harsh part :p.

The constructive part would be :

*) tone down the Photoshop contrast;
*) tone down the light effect (through paint);
*) in general : less is better. So use less light and mark more your shadows.
 
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generulpoleaxe

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thanks guys.:)

it\'s not as neat as my normal work as i was trying out various other things as well such as painting with washes etc.

to top that off the new w+n7\'s i got were shit to put it bluntly. not a single frigin one kept there points.

if any one can recomend another brand that is just as good as what w+n7\'s used to be i would be greatfull.
 
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skeeve

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It is very good, I like it, but not as intended, not as OSL, or rather not as OSL from an intended light source. Your reflections are very bright compared to the intensity of the lantern. The general rule (specific exceptions do apply ) is that reflections cannot be as bright as source itself and the brightness should decrease with the distance from the source. The specific exceptions is reflections from polished metal, black velvet or silk - they can appear brighter then the source, but them they will be confined to very small areas.

The feel is that you have indeed VERY bright blue floodlight somewhere to the left (viewers) of the mini.

Now, assuming that contrast of the image is not an issue here (there are too many saturated pixels), one approach that might quickly fix it is to give everything (but the lantern) a light blue wash.
 
green stuff

green stuff

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Message original : generulpoleaxe
if any one can recomend another brand that is just as good as what w+n7\'s used to be i would be greatfull.
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I\'m quite happy with my \"0 Prince August Master Tobolsky Kolinsky 010\".

http://www.prince-august.net/liste.php?cPath=6_26
http://www.prince-august.net/details.php?pid=196
 
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generulpoleaxe

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thanks for link:)

only problem is, i am your typical ignorant english man and can\'t understand other languages.

is there an english section to the site?

(last time i tried to write something in a foreighn language i confused the hell out of the legio pictorum, i thought i was giving advice about glazes. it turned out that i was giving advice about cake frosting!lol )
 
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It doesn\'t quite work for me I\'m afraid.

The warm colours on the bits that aren\'t directly lit look wrong. If the lamp was the only source of lighting, everything would have a blue cast to it. The haft of the scythe has no source lighting on it at all and looks out of place.

It\'s bugger to pull off though. My first attempt is still half finished, but I found actually photographing the undercoated mini source lit before hand was useful. I even managed to get some gels to tint the light and did it from multiple angles. Gives you something to work from anyway...
 
Avelorn

Avelorn

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Originally posted by generulpoleaxe
to top that off the new w+n7\'s i got were shit to put it bluntly. not a single frigin one kept there points.

if any one can recomend another brand that is just as good as what w+n7\'s used to be i would be greatfull.
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Don\'t give up on them yet... you can use brush soap and then give them hair conditioner for a couple of hours.. paint some with them and repeat the procedure. I got some crappy ones too.. but one of them still turned out to be my favourite brush after some painting time. But try to never buy brushes online.. that\'s the best tip I can give. W&N needs a lot of testing these days unfortunately...
 
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Ritual

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Did you order your W&Ns or buy them in a store? I buy mine in an art store so that I can test them and pick out the ones I think looks best. I don\'t think I would want to buy brushes on-line.

About the paintjob, I basically agree with what\'s been said. The reflections are a bit too much and they don\'t seem to be quite accurately positioned in some places. There\'s no sense of the light intensity dropping off with distance and thus the lantern seems unnaturally bright.
 
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matty1001

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Originally posted by Avelorn
But try to never buy brushes online.. that\'s the best tip I can give. W&N needs a lot of testing these days unfortunately...
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And iv just order £40\'s worth online! :drunk: But they have an instore/before delivery testing process and a great refund/replacement scheme for if they arn\'t up to the quality they are meant to be
 
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generulpoleaxe

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thanks guys:)

@spacemunkie, nice idea with the photographs before hand:)
it\'s yet another one of my test piece ideas that doesn\'t realy work, yet gives me a very good insite into how it needs to be done.
(i also managed to learn a lot more about photography thanks to yvnonne)
 
Shawn R. L.

Shawn R. L.

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Where the light is landing is WAY too bright. put a blue wash over all those areas but leave the lamp windows white. In the areas that arent lit, go for a dull mid tone shaded with black.
 
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Rastl

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First off, kudos for trying OSL. It\'s a bear to pull off.

Next, constructive criticism. What the others said in the overall brightness and evenness of the lighting. Figure out where the lantern would cast the brightest light and get darker from there.

Something Laszlo said once about OSL is that you have to make the colors equivalently darker opposite the light source. Or maybe it was Eric Louchard. Anyway, that\'s what someone who does great OSL said.

Personally I\'ve only tried it on a very small scale and have gotten .. decent tabletop results. So you\'re already light years ahead of me. :beer:
 
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