Blackadder
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Since about the 20th of June but not exclusively.
Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'
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Since about the 20th of June but not exclusively.
Blackadder
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Establishing the Profile:
I remove the muzzle to work on it and reattach it for the images.
My first consideration is the muzzle length which should be about half the length of the coil section. I can extend it about 8 more millimeters if needs be hence the excess on the nose of the muzzle.
https://i.imgur.com/6hFW20K.jpg
One problem with the shape of this is the templates I have installed to make the exterior form will have to be broken out after the outer cowl is completed so I can build the inner surface of the four cowl pieces.
https://i.imgur.com/80BM2Ds.jpg
This end on shape gives some idea of the interior structure once the templates are broken out.
https://i.imgur.com/aLjohFZ.jpg
I can't wait until this monster is done and I can relax with the easier weapons.
I remove the muzzle to work on it and reattach it for the images.
My first consideration is the muzzle length which should be about half the length of the coil section. I can extend it about 8 more millimeters if needs be hence the excess on the nose of the muzzle.
https://i.imgur.com/6hFW20K.jpg
One problem with the shape of this is the templates I have installed to make the exterior form will have to be broken out after the outer cowl is completed so I can build the inner surface of the four cowl pieces.
https://i.imgur.com/80BM2Ds.jpg
This end on shape gives some idea of the interior structure once the templates are broken out.
https://i.imgur.com/aLjohFZ.jpg
I can't wait until this monster is done and I can relax with the easier weapons.
Blackadder
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I began in May of last year. Thanks for the reply.
A Horrible Bollixed Up Mess:
Or, who knows, this just might work out after all.
https://i.imgur.com/Pl4cvpI.jpg
I've put a lot of work into this thing and it's finally time to apply the finishing strakes. Each one has to be custom fit but we'll follow this together.
Right Now I am cautiously optimistic. ;-)
A Horrible Bollixed Up Mess:
Or, who knows, this just might work out after all.
https://i.imgur.com/Pl4cvpI.jpg
I've put a lot of work into this thing and it's finally time to apply the finishing strakes. Each one has to be custom fit but we'll follow this together.
Right Now I am cautiously optimistic. ;-)
Blackadder
Active member
That Wasn't So Hard:
I don't know why I dreaded this, it wasn't so hard.
I figured out the secret of layering strakes ( Contoured planks on a frame ) and where I have previously gone awry with this sort of construction. What you need to do is install backing strips to the inner surface of the main planks so you have something to glue the filler planks.
Previously I attempted to add the filler planks without backing. I used 1,0 MM X 6.3 MM styrene for the planking which moulded easily but was still thick enough to take a finishing sanding.
https://i.imgur.com/GJbJxNz.jpg
The image above shows the upper nose segment rough sanded and the lower segment with the plans in the rough unsanded stage.
The image below may make the explanation clearer.
https://i.imgur.com/r0ZrGeM.jpg
Once I have the muzzle segments completely rough sanded I'll wet sand the whole cowling.
I never use filler such as Greenstuff and Milliput because it looks like hell ( Especially the Green Stuff ) and you have difficulty gluing additional styrene to the foreign surface. Plus flaws in the contours are difficult to see until the surface is painted.
Anyway, "Onward and upward" as the saying goes I'm quite pleased with the result.
I don't know why I dreaded this, it wasn't so hard.
I figured out the secret of layering strakes ( Contoured planks on a frame ) and where I have previously gone awry with this sort of construction. What you need to do is install backing strips to the inner surface of the main planks so you have something to glue the filler planks.
Previously I attempted to add the filler planks without backing. I used 1,0 MM X 6.3 MM styrene for the planking which moulded easily but was still thick enough to take a finishing sanding.
https://i.imgur.com/GJbJxNz.jpg
The image above shows the upper nose segment rough sanded and the lower segment with the plans in the rough unsanded stage.
The image below may make the explanation clearer.
https://i.imgur.com/r0ZrGeM.jpg
Once I have the muzzle segments completely rough sanded I'll wet sand the whole cowling.
I never use filler such as Greenstuff and Milliput because it looks like hell ( Especially the Green Stuff ) and you have difficulty gluing additional styrene to the foreign surface. Plus flaws in the contours are difficult to see until the surface is painted.
Anyway, "Onward and upward" as the saying goes I'm quite pleased with the result.
Blackadder
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Rough Sanding Completed:
The business end of this construct is reaching fruition
https://i.imgur.com/yvyPN5f.jpg
Space Marine Provided for scale
https://i.imgur.com/9c3Mhe4.jpg
A couple of more layers and I'll be ready to remove the templates.
https://i.imgur.com/EZA696X.jpg
But I don't like these new light bulbs. Why is everything yellow?
The business end of this construct is reaching fruition
https://i.imgur.com/yvyPN5f.jpg
Space Marine Provided for scale
https://i.imgur.com/9c3Mhe4.jpg
A couple of more layers and I'll be ready to remove the templates.
https://i.imgur.com/EZA696X.jpg
But I don't like these new light bulbs. Why is everything yellow?
Meph
Cat-herder Extraordinaire
Muy bien, amigo!
The yellow light means they have a low colour temperature (Kelvin). Most lights are in these lower ranges and are described as 'warm' light. high Kelvin is usually a bit harder to find and a bit more expensive, with the highest Kelvin ranges can be described as Daylight lamps. Some camera's can compensate for this with a setting somewhere, but it won't be fully.
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The yellow light means they have a low colour temperature (Kelvin). Most lights are in these lower ranges and are described as 'warm' light. high Kelvin is usually a bit harder to find and a bit more expensive, with the highest Kelvin ranges can be described as Daylight lamps. Some camera's can compensate for this with a setting somewhere, but it won't be fully.
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Blackadder
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Template Frames Removed:
From the Muzzle
Which opens up the four highly detailed cowl segments.
https://i.imgur.com/zUwGAKO.jpg
This is where the FW artists prove their mettle. The meticulous detail that no one ever sees in the overall scope but sets their creations apart from run-of-the-mill efforts.
https://i.imgur.com/LpErLTP.jpg
I really cannot wait until FW releases a Warlord Chaos version so I can adequately demonstrate my appreciation by purchasing one.
BTW whatever turned the preceding images yellow has gone away???
From the Muzzle
Which opens up the four highly detailed cowl segments.
https://i.imgur.com/zUwGAKO.jpg
This is where the FW artists prove their mettle. The meticulous detail that no one ever sees in the overall scope but sets their creations apart from run-of-the-mill efforts.
https://i.imgur.com/LpErLTP.jpg
I really cannot wait until FW releases a Warlord Chaos version so I can adequately demonstrate my appreciation by purchasing one.
BTW whatever turned the preceding images yellow has gone away???
USMC 1369
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Black Adder "I really cannot wait until FW releases a Warlord Chaos version so I can adequately demonstrate my appreciation by purchasing one."
I think FW needs to appreciate the work you have done on this project. please keep up this great build and reproducing the details in larger scale!
I think FW needs to appreciate the work you have done on this project. please keep up this great build and reproducing the details in larger scale!
I wish I had a fraction of the scratch build skills you have Blackadder. Although if I had the talent I certainly don't have the patience to pull something like this off so methodically. I thought your other works were just insane but this really takes them all hands down.
Blackadder
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Thanks,
A Budding Neophyte:
Back in the days when the Blackadder was a budding neophyte he attempted to make a Plasma Blaster for a StormBlade variant. The result was of indifferent quality but I could not figure out a way to make the muzzle cowl long thin exhaust ports.
So today I was faced with the same problem ( Fortunately these are much bigger ) plus I have a wealth of experience to draw on so we shall see how I do.
https://i.imgur.com/ekQR0U4.jpg
I laid the groundwork for these ports and they take about five minutes each to replicate those in the screen above.
At this point we needn't worry about the length and the slight bowing of the 0.040 inch strips. I need 12 of these of exact length.
A Budding Neophyte:
Back in the days when the Blackadder was a budding neophyte he attempted to make a Plasma Blaster for a StormBlade variant. The result was of indifferent quality but I could not figure out a way to make the muzzle cowl long thin exhaust ports.
So today I was faced with the same problem ( Fortunately these are much bigger ) plus I have a wealth of experience to draw on so we shall see how I do.
https://i.imgur.com/ekQR0U4.jpg
I laid the groundwork for these ports and they take about five minutes each to replicate those in the screen above.
At this point we needn't worry about the length and the slight bowing of the 0.040 inch strips. I need 12 of these of exact length.
Blackadder
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Bogged Down On Minutia
These bits are time consuming
https://i.imgur.com/pelIe6R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dwzqeHN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/a09Up8I.jpg
These bits are time consuming
https://i.imgur.com/pelIe6R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dwzqeHN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/a09Up8I.jpg
Dexter0015
Member
Man, you're so talented...
When I have to work with plastic sheets, I need soooo much time to figure out what to do... and usually ending with something barly ok.
Following this gigantic project is like watching a good magicien performing, it's mind blowing.
btw: maybe your plasma gun is longer than the on on the screen behind it, but I think it only make it better.
When I have to work with plastic sheets, I need soooo much time to figure out what to do... and usually ending with something barly ok.
Following this gigantic project is like watching a good magicien performing, it's mind blowing.
btw: maybe your plasma gun is longer than the on on the screen behind it, but I think it only make it better.
Blackadder
Active member
Not only longer but wider and deeper. It is about 1.5 times bigger than the Warlord blaster because the Emperor is 1.5 times more massive than the Warlord. I measured and remeasured the coils and they are precisely the same number as the FW version. I made the barrel a bit wider and the depth a bit deeper because the overall effect is to out mass the Warlord. When I finally mount it on the Emperor we'll see how it works out.
Blackadder
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Disappointing:
To say the least but it's good to show your failures occasionally lest you become too full of yourself.
https://i.imgur.com/7pkSCnG.jpg
I think I am getting tired of replicating this weapon The above image of the er whatever this is and the image below which I thought would be so cool just didn't come out as I had hoped.
https://i.imgur.com/NLDhzIT.jpg
With the two components installed and the elevation spool temporarily in place
https://i.imgur.com/lkltQQE.jpg
I can only mutter "Meh!" Not even good enough for Gov'ment work.
Faa!
To say the least but it's good to show your failures occasionally lest you become too full of yourself.
https://i.imgur.com/7pkSCnG.jpg
I think I am getting tired of replicating this weapon The above image of the er whatever this is and the image below which I thought would be so cool just didn't come out as I had hoped.
https://i.imgur.com/NLDhzIT.jpg
With the two components installed and the elevation spool temporarily in place
https://i.imgur.com/lkltQQE.jpg
I can only mutter "Meh!" Not even good enough for Gov'ment work.
Faa!
Blackadder
Active member
What I Meant By Disappointing: (I wasn't fishing for compliments)
I suppose I should explain what I meant by disappointing but something did not look right about the panels on either side of the muzzle and the five exhaust ports between the vertical coils. I researched a lot last night and finally found an image that shows where I went wrong. It is irritating that I did not perceive this earlier; D**n!
Note to Jabba,
I had considered clear rod and tubing for the coils including fluorescent weed whip monofilament but could not find a suitable diameter and clear filament made it look too toylike.
These are the best images I have managed to come up with and presumably they are very current as I don't recall seeing them before. The front view shows the heatsinks (Whatever) are slightly convex on either side of the muzzle and the muzzle itself is exquisitely detailed for my purposes Much better than any previous image.
https://i.imgur.com/IW4MQlm.jpg
The rear image shows the five exhaust ports and demonstrates where my error lies. I have mine vertical and the actual ports are inclined toward the rear.
https://i.imgur.com/o17orvM.jpg
I'm still hoping to find detailed unpainted top and bottom images of both the muzzle area and the rear area aft of the coils; areas sorely neglected in images thus far. I also need a view of the back of the weapon.
I suppose I should explain what I meant by disappointing but something did not look right about the panels on either side of the muzzle and the five exhaust ports between the vertical coils. I researched a lot last night and finally found an image that shows where I went wrong. It is irritating that I did not perceive this earlier; D**n!
Note to Jabba,
I had considered clear rod and tubing for the coils including fluorescent weed whip monofilament but could not find a suitable diameter and clear filament made it look too toylike.
These are the best images I have managed to come up with and presumably they are very current as I don't recall seeing them before. The front view shows the heatsinks (Whatever) are slightly convex on either side of the muzzle and the muzzle itself is exquisitely detailed for my purposes Much better than any previous image.
https://i.imgur.com/IW4MQlm.jpg
The rear image shows the five exhaust ports and demonstrates where my error lies. I have mine vertical and the actual ports are inclined toward the rear.
https://i.imgur.com/o17orvM.jpg
I'm still hoping to find detailed unpainted top and bottom images of both the muzzle area and the rear area aft of the coils; areas sorely neglected in images thus far. I also need a view of the back of the weapon.
Blackadder
Active member
In and Out of the Doldrums:
Yesterday I found myself dissatisfied with the progress of this construct. Today after finding what was the problem I'm optimistic about the progress.
Plus I found an image that shows the length of the Primary weapons at about 13 inches.
https://i.imgur.com/EL8Ukgw.jpg
The SunFury as it is in the images at present without the rear components is 14 inches so the scale is correct as well.
https://i.imgur.com/3YopBin.jpg
Yesterday I found myself dissatisfied with the progress of this construct. Today after finding what was the problem I'm optimistic about the progress.
Plus I found an image that shows the length of the Primary weapons at about 13 inches.
https://i.imgur.com/EL8Ukgw.jpg
The SunFury as it is in the images at present without the rear components is 14 inches so the scale is correct as well.
https://i.imgur.com/3YopBin.jpg
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The amount of work gone into this so far is incredible! I've always had that lingering thought at the back of my mind to make a warhound but I have issues working with plasticard, can never seem to cut it straight! Seeing the progress of how someone else is working has made me a little more confident I could do it . . .
