Blackadder's Attempt To Build a Lucius Patten Imperator Titan 'Invictus'
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Blackadder
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These complex structures are amoung the most difficult I have built for this Titan. Considering they will have to bear little weight in comparison they are extremely over built.
https://i.imgur.com/MKAMJX8.jpg
Compounding this the corner towers are octagonal in shape. This does not lend itself readily to the square grid material I have chosen for the substructure. Compensations in the structure have to be made to make the cross section conform to the octagonal shape.
https://i.imgur.com/ofpjp2n.jpg
The top of the Barbicans will have either spires which will increase the height to around 60 inches or AA laser cannon emplacements which will decrease the height to somewhat less; about; 54 inches as far as the Barbicans are concerned.
https://i.imgur.com/2bPuKBl.jpg
The main Keep will be another story.
https://i.imgur.com/MKAMJX8.jpg
Compounding this the corner towers are octagonal in shape. This does not lend itself readily to the square grid material I have chosen for the substructure. Compensations in the structure have to be made to make the cross section conform to the octagonal shape.
https://i.imgur.com/ofpjp2n.jpg
The top of the Barbicans will have either spires which will increase the height to around 60 inches or AA laser cannon emplacements which will decrease the height to somewhat less; about; 54 inches as far as the Barbicans are concerned.
https://i.imgur.com/2bPuKBl.jpg
The main Keep will be another story.
Lone Lemming
New member
I am pretty sure that GW will provide rules for your titan when you are finished 
And we can start asking for plastic Imperial Titans, too!
And we can start asking for plastic Imperial Titans, too!
Blackadder
Active member
Sanctum Sanctorum:.
Awright no comments on the man-cave.
https://i.imgur.com/MBOgm4T.jpg
As you may have gathered I'm single. Who else could dump thousands on stuff I should have outgrown ages ago but hey, I love working on this stuff. Prior to this I built 18th century American warship models plank on frame wood..... but that's for another area of FB
I find styrene a much easier medium to work with and my son was an avid player so Dad obliged him.
I spent the better part of the week building the components seen here. That and my current occupation of President of my Condominium.
https://i.imgur.com/aQgITmu.jpg
The octagonal column center of the image above represents my third attempt to make this part, successfully (Finally) I might add. The secret was, "there are no shortcuts to a quality representation." Eventually I must learn that.
The image below show the basic work of the remaining seven columns waiting in the wings for the success of the first.
]https://i.imgur.com/bSP02tN.jpg
My apologies for the crudeness of the construction appearance but the basic shape is all I need for the present. The polish and detail will come later.
Awright no comments on the man-cave.
https://i.imgur.com/MBOgm4T.jpg
As you may have gathered I'm single. Who else could dump thousands on stuff I should have outgrown ages ago but hey, I love working on this stuff. Prior to this I built 18th century American warship models plank on frame wood..... but that's for another area of FB
I find styrene a much easier medium to work with and my son was an avid player so Dad obliged him.
I spent the better part of the week building the components seen here. That and my current occupation of President of my Condominium.
https://i.imgur.com/aQgITmu.jpg
The octagonal column center of the image above represents my third attempt to make this part, successfully (Finally) I might add. The secret was, "there are no shortcuts to a quality representation." Eventually I must learn that.
The image below show the basic work of the remaining seven columns waiting in the wings for the success of the first.
]https://i.imgur.com/bSP02tN.jpg
My apologies for the crudeness of the construction appearance but the basic shape is all I need for the present. The polish and detail will come later.
Blackadder
Active member
Corner Towers Done......
The basic octagonal structure that is. There are still two levels of surface detail to apply but aside from the AA cannon emplacements this will be the height of the Imperator version of this Titan.
https://i.imgur.com/z7u8CZ9.jpg
I'm so confused as to what the seemingly interchangeable names and classes of the Emperor Titans. Initially I set out to build a Warmonger version to match my Lucius Warlord and Warhound (seen here for scale). Lucie was my first major scratchbuild project and she is slightly more robust compared to the Forge World Warhound Version.
https://i.imgur.com/B8BcNAW.jpg
This aerial view gives a better perspective of the upper deck.
https://i.imgur.com/SV2cXJw.jpg
And finally a head on shot with the various Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii slated to infest the upper works of this monstrosity.
The basic octagonal structure that is. There are still two levels of surface detail to apply but aside from the AA cannon emplacements this will be the height of the Imperator version of this Titan.
https://i.imgur.com/z7u8CZ9.jpg
I'm so confused as to what the seemingly interchangeable names and classes of the Emperor Titans. Initially I set out to build a Warmonger version to match my Lucius Warlord and Warhound (seen here for scale). Lucie was my first major scratchbuild project and she is slightly more robust compared to the Forge World Warhound Version.
https://i.imgur.com/B8BcNAW.jpg
This aerial view gives a better perspective of the upper deck.
https://i.imgur.com/SV2cXJw.jpg
And finally a head on shot with the various Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii slated to infest the upper works of this monstrosity.
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Dexter0015
Member
Monstrosity is the word! What a titanic project (no pun intended)!
Blackadder
Active member
Composite Image:
I've been asked to put this together for an overall image of the work thus far.
Well it's too tall for the work console I have to stack the two major components, legs and torso, plus the whole thing is front heavy at the moment with none of the rear counterweights installed; I'm figuring the completed model will weigh in the neighborhood of two Bowling balls overall weight when finished; i.e.32 pounds or about 14.5 kilo.
https://i.imgur.com/aoOOzdX.jpg
The only other leastwise finished component is the Sunfury Plasma Annihilator which also cannot be mounted until the top and bottom body sections are together.
https://i.imgur.com/D6Tumkw.jpg
But my clumsy photo editing can give you a general idea of where I am heading with this construction.
I've been asked to put this together for an overall image of the work thus far.
Well it's too tall for the work console I have to stack the two major components, legs and torso, plus the whole thing is front heavy at the moment with none of the rear counterweights installed; I'm figuring the completed model will weigh in the neighborhood of two Bowling balls overall weight when finished; i.e.32 pounds or about 14.5 kilo.
https://i.imgur.com/aoOOzdX.jpg
The only other leastwise finished component is the Sunfury Plasma Annihilator which also cannot be mounted until the top and bottom body sections are together.
https://i.imgur.com/D6Tumkw.jpg
But my clumsy photo editing can give you a general idea of where I am heading with this construction.
Blackadder
Active member
Not an engineer but I play one on the internet
Emperor Titan Pelvic Block:
My obsession with having the option of posing my creations has worked out previously, My scratchbuilt Warhound, Warlord, Thunderhawk and Reaver have the ability to be positioned an virtually any configuration even beyond that which is mechanically sound in practice.
With this newest model I hoped to carry on the tradition but it did open up areas of concern. I designed this model to have no swivel fore and aft as in the Warlord and Warhound. I calculated the weigh of the model above the hips would collapse the hip joints were I to attempt functioning ball and socket joints as I did with the other two Titans.
https://i.imgur.com/c9K9SzG.jpg
With that resignation I began the Pelvic Block this weekend.
https://i.imgur.com/iFhj62W.jpg
My original Pelvic Block seen here was naively small compared to the 1.66 meters tall construction this has evolved to. My original estimate of the height was on the order of a meter tall.
https://i.imgur.com/KP3BAfB.jpg
Emperor Titan Pelvic Block:
My obsession with having the option of posing my creations has worked out previously, My scratchbuilt Warhound, Warlord, Thunderhawk and Reaver have the ability to be positioned an virtually any configuration even beyond that which is mechanically sound in practice.
With this newest model I hoped to carry on the tradition but it did open up areas of concern. I designed this model to have no swivel fore and aft as in the Warlord and Warhound. I calculated the weigh of the model above the hips would collapse the hip joints were I to attempt functioning ball and socket joints as I did with the other two Titans.
https://i.imgur.com/c9K9SzG.jpg
With that resignation I began the Pelvic Block this weekend.
https://i.imgur.com/iFhj62W.jpg
My original Pelvic Block seen here was naively small compared to the 1.66 meters tall construction this has evolved to. My original estimate of the height was on the order of a meter tall.
https://i.imgur.com/KP3BAfB.jpg
Blackadder
Active member
Yesterday Morning:
The Pelvic Block was about 4 inches square. Now it is about 6 inches by 4 inches and the basic shape is established.
https://i.imgur.com/bGo5EXn.jpg
This side view show the shape of the original Block
https://i.imgur.com/bGo5EXn.jpg
The Lower Body Turntable seated above the Block
https://i.imgur.com/U3z32B8.jpg
And the Turntable and Block temporarily installed on the Hips
https://i.imgur.com/xMgbYqm.jpg
This thing literally fell together last night......
https://i.imgur.com/COXuhg8.jpg
Such is the power and convenience of using this waffle material.
I really love this stuff. Not only is it cheap but it virtually removes the problem of squaring up and truing the angles on large constructions. I could never afforded to build this Titan without this material.
The Pelvic Block was about 4 inches square. Now it is about 6 inches by 4 inches and the basic shape is established.
https://i.imgur.com/bGo5EXn.jpg
This side view show the shape of the original Block
https://i.imgur.com/bGo5EXn.jpg
The Lower Body Turntable seated above the Block
https://i.imgur.com/U3z32B8.jpg
And the Turntable and Block temporarily installed on the Hips
https://i.imgur.com/xMgbYqm.jpg
This thing literally fell together last night......
https://i.imgur.com/COXuhg8.jpg
Such is the power and convenience of using this waffle material.
I really love this stuff. Not only is it cheap but it virtually removes the problem of squaring up and truing the angles on large constructions. I could never afforded to build this Titan without this material.
Blackadder
Active member
Flexibility of the Legs:
The first two images demonstrate the flexibility of the legs.
https://i.imgur.com/rOp4vyv.jpg
While not as articulated as my Warlord and Warhound it does have the ability to appear to be ambulatory.
https://i.imgur.com/HxvqLrd.jpg
The next images show the front and rear basic detail of the Pelvis.
https://i.imgur.com/DsNMo2e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hb6TJDK.jpg
and the 3D Titan images I am working from.....
https://i.imgur.com/OrAKjhJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BrSbX79.jpg
The first two images demonstrate the flexibility of the legs.
https://i.imgur.com/rOp4vyv.jpg
While not as articulated as my Warlord and Warhound it does have the ability to appear to be ambulatory.
https://i.imgur.com/HxvqLrd.jpg
The next images show the front and rear basic detail of the Pelvis.
https://i.imgur.com/DsNMo2e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hb6TJDK.jpg
and the 3D Titan images I am working from.....
https://i.imgur.com/OrAKjhJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BrSbX79.jpg
Blackadder
Active member
It's been a while since I've posted; we've got a lot of catching up to do....
https://i.imgur.com/TqR7uy1.jpg
This evening I tack glued on the corner pieces to the Pelvic Block just for the pictures shown here
https://i.imgur.com/ukKBjyC.jpg
So you are seeing in pretty much real time as the following sequence of images just as I assemble it for the first time.
https://i.imgur.com/n0TpSkm.jpg
The Pelvic Block is an unremarkable structure that functions primarily as decorative rather than functional.
https://i.imgur.com/NWYuI2S.jpg
All the supportive structure of the Pelvis, hips, and joints are encased in the Pelvic Block and are functional without it even being installed the same as with my Warlord Titan (Seen in the background of some of these images.)
https://i.imgur.com/NWYuI2S.jpg
The First image shows a basic standing pose and sad to say demonstrates that Titans as a group are pretty much dysfunctional when it comes to walking. Titans cannot lift one foot off the ground without toppling sideways because of the immutable laws of gravity. They may be able adopt a toddler's gait but the sight of these behemoths waddling across the battlefield would be ludicrous in the extreme and pretty much negate any awe and terror their size and power might engender.
https://i.imgur.com/QiqGbZX.jpg
Anyway It's fun to speculate about them in spite of their impracticality seen here in the Classic Titan stance.
https://i.imgur.com/TqR7uy1.jpg
This evening I tack glued on the corner pieces to the Pelvic Block just for the pictures shown here
https://i.imgur.com/ukKBjyC.jpg
So you are seeing in pretty much real time as the following sequence of images just as I assemble it for the first time.
https://i.imgur.com/n0TpSkm.jpg
The Pelvic Block is an unremarkable structure that functions primarily as decorative rather than functional.
https://i.imgur.com/NWYuI2S.jpg
All the supportive structure of the Pelvis, hips, and joints are encased in the Pelvic Block and are functional without it even being installed the same as with my Warlord Titan (Seen in the background of some of these images.)
https://i.imgur.com/NWYuI2S.jpg
The First image shows a basic standing pose and sad to say demonstrates that Titans as a group are pretty much dysfunctional when it comes to walking. Titans cannot lift one foot off the ground without toppling sideways because of the immutable laws of gravity. They may be able adopt a toddler's gait but the sight of these behemoths waddling across the battlefield would be ludicrous in the extreme and pretty much negate any awe and terror their size and power might engender.
https://i.imgur.com/QiqGbZX.jpg
Anyway It's fun to speculate about them in spite of their impracticality seen here in the Classic Titan stance.
gorb
New member
This is all starting to come together nicely!
As for practicality, you have to wonder about making a giant weapon platform walk on two legs, without giving it the means to *get back up* if it ever gets knocked over.
This is basically my whole problem with mechs in general. But I still love them.
As for practicality, you have to wonder about making a giant weapon platform walk on two legs, without giving it the means to *get back up* if it ever gets knocked over.
This is basically my whole problem with mechs in general. But I still love them.
Blackadder
Active member
Groin Secondary Detail:
Some of the most tedious repetitive structures to make are these Gothic style window frames. There are dozens of these and the sizes are almost all different so you cannot even set up an assembly line.
https://i.imgur.com/2U3lNvH.jpg
Of course some wag will say cast them or 3D print them but the truth is I cannot afford even the most primitive 3D printer and the casting process involves incompatible materials plus try as I might the casting always stands out as as well looking like the parts were cast.
https://i.imgur.com/UeTW2A5.jpg
No I just have to hunker down and endure the tedium.
Some of the most tedious repetitive structures to make are these Gothic style window frames. There are dozens of these and the sizes are almost all different so you cannot even set up an assembly line.
https://i.imgur.com/2U3lNvH.jpg
Of course some wag will say cast them or 3D print them but the truth is I cannot afford even the most primitive 3D printer and the casting process involves incompatible materials plus try as I might the casting always stands out as as well looking like the parts were cast.
https://i.imgur.com/UeTW2A5.jpg
No I just have to hunker down and endure the tedium.
Tee888
Member
Wow that's still coming along awesomely! Hey BA i just happened to catch a fan made 40k film and they had a Imperator and did some footage of the inside.
i thought it might help you with some ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTaGjGmcHYD2fqukCIVfjvQ/videos
video 5 on has clips of it.
Tee.
i thought it might help you with some ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTaGjGmcHYD2fqukCIVfjvQ/videos
video 5 on has clips of it.
Tee.
Blackadder
Active member
Wow that's still coming along awesomely! Hey BA i just happened to catch a fan made 40k film and they had a Imperator and did some footage of the inside.
i thought it might help you with some ideas.
Sorry to Disappoint:
But the work just done in no way is reflected in the minuscule advancement in the images proffered here. While the Groin construction must bear the mass of over half this Titan there is little to be seen indicated in the images presented here.
https://i.imgur.com/oQHm1nz.jpg
Front and rear projections are but somewhat faithful to M. Joazzz2's marvelous artistry for, as near as I can, I have of necessity taken certain liberties in the interpretation.
https://i.imgur.com/gViXKos.jpg
The hip area in particular need be somewhat more substantial than the rear projection image offered by Mr J.
https://i.imgur.com/BrSbX79.jpg
May I be forgiven for the heresy.
Love all your projects.
I've been out of the hobby for almost ten years, but have periodically looked up your other titan build.
Recently found this build and binged it for 4 hours.
The short discussion about the hydraulics in the armpits has stuck with me.
If you're still looking for a function for these, I'd say they are shock damperers.
Imagine the weight of the weapons when this thing takes a step....
I can imagine a similar mechanism inside the shoulders to what you have as an elbow/wrist. (To move the arms up and down to install a different weapon)
I know you haven't physically build that (yet?), but the hydraulics make sense...
I've been out of the hobby for almost ten years, but have periodically looked up your other titan build.
Recently found this build and binged it for 4 hours.
The short discussion about the hydraulics in the armpits has stuck with me.
If you're still looking for a function for these, I'd say they are shock damperers.
Imagine the weight of the weapons when this thing takes a step....
I can imagine a similar mechanism inside the shoulders to what you have as an elbow/wrist. (To move the arms up and down to install a different weapon)
I know you haven't physically build that (yet?), but the hydraulics make sense...
