BloodFather's Axis of Chaos

After essentially melting the face off of the above chick, I decided to do a different one for the Wyrd painting contest. Introducing, Bambi Bermuda:


http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/benjibaird/media/Mobile Uploads/image_zps9307aca3.jpg.html

You'll notice that I blocked out the skin that will appear underneath her sheer clothing. It's been highlighted and shadowed, though I will add a few more and sharpen up a few areas, like the left knee.

If she comes out decent, I'm going to put her in a diorama. Scene: Bayou junkyard. A trailer acts as the centerpiece and service center to a fenced in scrap yard filled with various debris and rusted assortments. Bambi leans casually against her samurai sword. standing atop a junk pile. She is surrounded by a gang of Bayou gremlins who have their weapons inexpertly trained on her.

These guys: http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/benjibaird/media/Mobile Uploads/image_zps586b1955.jpg.html
 
Today marks my 100th post on CMoN. It got me to thinking...I spend far too much time looking for inspiration, watching tutorials, and just generally proceeding at a snail's pace with my projects. I definitely spend more time planning, visualizing, photographing, and seeking feedback on my work, than I actually spend time painting. This comes from a strange need to receive validation from others before moving on-I fear that I may make a mistake early on, and that it will erase the good things I paint later. I overpaint all of my models. This tends to gunk things up and take away detail. No matter how thin my layers are, if I go back and forth over an area 100 times, it will look like crap. I have some strange expectation that I should be great at painting, even with only a couple months of experience. I tend to try to tackle advanced level projects and ignore the fundamentals. Because of this, I feel like I my skills have actually declined.


Bottom line-I need to slap some paint. That, or I will only regress further. Sorry for the piss poor attitude, it's just been a frustrating week. I just feel like I KNOW how to paint well, but I cannot execute it. And that can really grind my gears, turning miniature painting into a fun and relaxing experience, into one of anger and annoyance. Sigh. This needs to be fun again.
 

Stewsayer

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To not to get down mate. Paint something just for laughs. Maybe try and speed paint 1 figure. You are doing well for being at it for such a short time.
 

Zab

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You are crazy sir paint more to paint better? Bah! Madness :tongue: Don't stress. Ironically the best minis I have painted are the ones where I just did them for fun or to try new things. The gangs over at 5th dimension and massive voodoo are always preaching the virtues of painting by feel or painting for the joy of painting. They have this very "paint - don't think -just paint" vibe and I swear to God it really works. By all means plan, research and imagine, but when brush hits mini...just paint!
 
You are crazy sir paint more to paint better? Bah! Madness :tongue: Don't stress. Ironically the best minis I have painted are the ones where I just did them for fun or to try new things. The gangs over at 5th dimension and massive voodoo are always preaching the virtues of painting by feel or painting for the joy of painting. They have this very "paint - don't think -just paint" vibe and I swear to God it really works. By all means plan, research and imagine, but when brush hits mini...just paint!

Ha, I like this. Sort of a feng shui of painting. Let the mini Gods guide my brush. Hippy painting. Right on.

This has some merit though. I think my best painting occurred the moment I learned that GWs tutorials had it all wrong, and I just watered down some paint and quickly finished up some minis. They looked great when done, other than certain spoiled areas of the figure from before my epiphany. Then, as time went by, I started overthinking EVERYTHING I painted. It's also hard to see if I am getting better because everything I have been trying recently is some sort of advanced level technique. Over the last month, I have tried the following for the first time:
-painting plaid
-painting sheer effects
-freehanding cracks across a whole mini
-a mini almost entirely done in gold NMM
-a diorama

this may be why my growth feels so retarded (politically correct use of the word). Everything I try is a new, advanced technique. I think Stew was right. I need to speed paint a basic mini. I think it will help build my confidence.

BTW-You have a blog, right? I think I found you...
 

Zab

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Getting back to basics is always fun too! Yeah, I run the blog Almost Perftec. It's a good month or so behind my WIP thread here, but contains a lot more detailed SBS material on my projects. :)
 

Stewsayer

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I speed painted a Zombicide fatty a couple of months ago. Getting her done in about 6 hours (slow I know) and being happy with the job was very cathartic and opened up an run of 3-4 weeks of really good sessions that helped me get the Blood thirster finished finally. Hence the recommendation.

I always plan for the mini I am painting to be better than the last one I finished. It helps me get a little better each time. For a good while though I was like you and trying all sorts of advanced stuff every time I put brush to figure. These days I am picking one technique at a time and having a crack at it. Currently I have a PP Crowe on the go in monochrome and the Young Miniatures Templar Bust also working up the early stages in monochrome (He will get colour later). The idea being to try and work on my contrast. If the results of these two pan out I may just have a different (and quicker possibly) method of getting to my final (hopefully good and improving) results. Getting a little better each time is far less discouraging than trying something huge and ambitious that takes forever and maybe never gets finished.
 
Before I forget, Portal Ezine has a great write up on contrast. Probably the best essay on the subject that you will find. Seriously, give it a read. It WILL help:

http://www.wampforum.com/VB4/downloads.php?do=file&id=35

Its good to know that others experience the same kind of challenges as me. And I am the same way where "speed" painting takes me 8-10 hours. Since I started this whole miniature adventure, I think of little else. My painting is really only done in 30 minute blocks before life calls on me to do the secondary things, like eat or talk to my wife. When I am not painting, I am looking at the clock and waiting to paint. If I am shopping, I am secretly REALLY looking for painting supplies or basing material. Walking the dog? No,I am really looking for some moss to hang from my greenstuff wire tree. It's obsessive, and that's why it hurts so bad when the paint doesn't behave in the manner in which I asked it to behave.

I will ill probably return to my Chaos Lord soon. So far, he is coming out great. I stopped at the shield, when I asked you how to do the cracks. Well, I did a test run on a 25mm base and I think I have it down pretty damn good. So I think this will really recharge me.

Happy Painting
 

Zab

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Nice work. Don't touch it anymore until you work up the rest of the mini. If you want to add one more layer of highlight at the end to make it pop you always can. For now it looks good where it is. :good:
 
Some progress on the Malifaux Ronin. Just be advised that I haven't HLed or shaded the bottom tail of her hair, and there is still a lot unfinished in these photos. Also, don't know how well it is coming through with the lighting, but this is a sheer effect. One thing I have noticed is that with sheer, you will darken the high spots, rather than HL them. Whaddya think?

Back:
http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/benjibaird/media/Mobile Uploads/image_zpsc75925df.jpg.html
Front:
http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/benjibaird/media/Mobile Uploads/image_zpsd509cd19.jpg.html
 

Zab

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Very smooth! That coming along quite will. I just got my plastic KD pinups and lost an evening just starting at the sprues in amazement. It looks like the plastic wyrd kits are that way too!
 
Very smooth! That coming along quite will. I just got my plastic KD pinups and lost an evening just starting at the sprues in amazement. It looks like the plastic wyrd kits are that way too!

Thanks dude, means a lot coming from you. It's by no means perfect but if I can clean it up well and the tiny details come out okay, then it may end up not so bad. Some chalkiness around the breasts and on the face to get rid of as well. I plan on tackling this by using a bit thicker paint in those areas. Am I right that if you use too much water/thinner when doing skin or any light tone, that you can get some chalkiness?

A pretty big fan of the plastic Wyrd minis. They are small, probably around 25mm range. But they invite some easy painting. One complaint though: they can be a bitch to assemble. She took about 48 hours, I had to basically build her a neck from GS and liquid GS because it just doesn't separate well from the sprue. Envious of you, I am dying for some KD minis.
 

Zab

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Oh man so they are like darksword or anima tactics small o_O Yeah, sometimes it can get chalky if there is too much water or thinner. Too much medium and it gets glossy. It takes time to find that nice balance.
 
Thanks Zab. As a rule of thumb, I prefer 3:1 lahmian medium to paint. If I want a particular layer to be more subtle and translucent, I'll add some water to this. If I want a layer to be bolder, or I am doing a tiny detail or a freehand line, add retarder. If it's a wash, add flow enhancer. That's generally how I work. A base coat isn't treated any different than any other layer. But, from recent experiences, I think I may have to go 1:1 medium to paint for skin tones.

I have to ask, Zab, because I noticed some of your pics are from the iPhone. How do you get the pics directly on your page and in the right size? If I use my iPhone it comes out huge. That's why I use photobucket. However, I feel like Id have more comments and visitors to my WIP if people could see pics without having to open another web page.
 

Zab

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Most of the time I use photoshop, but if i'm lazy or it's just pics with no paint and I don't have to worry about colors I just use paint to crop and resize them.
 
Ugh, Finecast. My old nemesis, we meet again Sorry for the crap pics - iPhone so, ya know...


I swear it took me almost 30 min to get just Telion's head prepped today on my lunch break
Still, really fine details on his face. Those would have been lost in metal casting for sure. Stayin' positive on this project - it's for charity!


These are the iPhone pics I was talking about on your WIP. How did you get them down to size with the iPhone? I have Photoshop express and other apps on my iPhone, but I can't resize them. It just occurred to me: Did you take these pics with your iPhone and then upload them onto your computer? If so, then I understand how you resized. I guess I am asking if there is a way to resize them from the iPhone,without transferring the pics onto a computer. Thanks!
 

Zab

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Oh, ya I emailed them to myself and just used paint. I haven't found a way to actually re-size them on the phone.
 
Oh, ya I emailed them to myself and just used paint. I haven't found a way to actually re-size them on the phone.

Doh! Yeah I imagine people clicking on my WIP, scrolling down and seeing nothing but
boring text, and then moving on without commenting or actually checking out the links. Not that there's anything spectacular to see here anyway....
 
More pics of the ronin to follow today. Almost done with her. Let me just say a few things about my experience with Wyrd minis first. As well as a few things I have learned from this project. Remember, this is for the WAMP competition due on April 26.

They aren't for me. At least, not at my current skill level. But even if I were great, I'd still probably take issue with a few things.

1. Minis are too small I think that 28mm is probably about as small as I can handle. Smaller than this and it just becomes a struggle to make worthwhile blends on tiny details. I'd say Malifaux minis are about the 25mm range.

2. Assembly is too much This lady came in 5 tiny parts. With as small as she already is, it was like gluing together gardening wire. Not easy. Especially with my combat stress related tremors. I use painting as a therapy and with this mini it was not.

3. Parts don't fitThis was perhaps the most frustrating part of all with this mini. I literally had to craft my own neck from greenstuff and liquid greenstuff. This took 2 days. And the head fell off of the shoulders about 5 times. There is a noticeable crack now where the neck meets the torso. I filled this in with paint, but it reappears every few days as the paint sets and sinks. Also, I just reapplied the arms and painted them, only to find that they don't fit right either. Too late to fix with greenstuff, so now it's just going to have to look like crap where the elbow meets the forearm. ON BOTH ARMS!!!

4. Details are sculpted poorly. She has about ten bows on her, but only a few are recognizable up close as bows. The rest are really just shapeless blobs. How do I paint a shapeless blob to look like a pretty purple bow, with shading and highlights? It turned into just putting a dark spot here and a light spot there. Those tiny details are what I was hoping would help me improve as a painter, but they just frustrated the hell out of me. Oh and the eyes. They weren't really shaped at all, or if they were they would have amounted to a tiny narrow speck. So I had to paint outside of the designed area when placing the borders of the eye ball. Well then if I dark lined her eyes it wouldn't look good, so I left it as just a poorly defined white eye ball, then dotted this with a green pupil. To do more would have made it look wrong.

At first glance, this mini is beautiful. I had a lot of fun with her hair, and especially trying sheer effect for the first time. It worked for me and looks great. If you're new and want to try sheer for the first time, PM me. But the poorly sculpted details and the difficulty with assembly ruins everything. It's like, why am I glazing hundreds of layers when, because of some basic issues with parts fitting together, the joins are going to look chewed up.

After I finished her hose, lingerie, and hair, the fun was robbed from this project. I'm to the point where I'm just going to slap on the paint and get her done.

My next project is my Chaos Lord. He is all blue NMM with gold trim, then frozen cracks painted on. I'll get to mess around with some snow effects too. I'm thinking I'll use the crushed glass. Really excited to get this contest over with so I can move onto this mini, because it highlights all of my strengths.

...Didn't really want to say anything about it but WTH-I am kind of in a hurry. Suffice it to say that I could be going somewhere soon where I may not be able to paint for years. This could start in six minutes or six months. Stressful and sad, yes, but i'd like to paint something enjoyable. And fast. Wish me luck.
 
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