fluisterwoud
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I've never heard of that technique, it sounds very interesting. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Glad you made it to FLA all safe and such.
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BloodFather of Kharnath
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Thanks Gandalf! I'll try to make it right! Will practice exstensively on a practice mini first to make sure I have the techniques down, of course. If I don't feel like I can do it justice, then I'll simply paint him in TMM. This bust is actually Thomas Wentworth, a pre-Civil War Aenglish Parliamentary figure, royalist, Lord of Ireland, and Earl of Stafford. The bust is based upon a painting commissioned during his lifetime. Anyway, clearly I will use the painting as my source of reference, and in this painting Wentworth is wearing a very dark, almost black steel. Well, Scalecolour Black metal would be PERFECT for this, so TMM is not completely out of the question...especially if his face ends up looking very good, I may end up too timid to try out the gilding and ruin my efforts.
Bailey, the rivets shouldn't be a problem. I have been assured that the leaf will pick up the tiniest of details. If that's what you mean by a pain in the....I think I will use oils on his face BTW. Why not, eh? Oils also work very well on faces with a bit of oil stand added to mimic the sheen of real skin. Plus the good thing about oils is that they just wipe off if you mess up. I just need to pick up 1-2 more colors maybe. And yeah, I am starting to think that larger scales just allow one to showcase their skills in a more discernible manner.
Bailey, the rivets shouldn't be a problem. I have been assured that the leaf will pick up the tiniest of details. If that's what you mean by a pain in the....I think I will use oils on his face BTW. Why not, eh? Oils also work very well on faces with a bit of oil stand added to mimic the sheen of real skin. Plus the good thing about oils is that they just wipe off if you mess up. I just need to pick up 1-2 more colors maybe. And yeah, I am starting to think that larger scales just allow one to showcase their skills in a more discernible manner.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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As far as I know, only Dmitry Fesechko from Moscow is the only artist to gild onto minis.
Bailey03
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I could see the rivets possibly tearing the foil as you try to get it to lay flat at the edge... but I'm guessing a bit of trial and error and you'll figure out how to make it work. Or it may not be an issue at all. Having never tried it, what do I know? The rest seems pretty smooth, so if the rivets aren't a problem then I don't see anything else that would trip you up.
Now you're seeing why I like those larger scales. :smile: And, in terms of showcasing the actual figure, when you have co-workers or non-painter friends over, in my experience, it's those larger scale figures will catch their attention much more than the gaming scale stuff.
Now you're seeing why I like those larger scales. :smile: And, in terms of showcasing the actual figure, when you have co-workers or non-painter friends over, in my experience, it's those larger scale figures will catch their attention much more than the gaming scale stuff.
Gandalf the Grey
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Once my current job is done I'm heading for bigger scale figures, it seems the way forward.
Bailey03
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Yes, come to the dark side! Mwhahahaha!
Seriously though, my advice is if you just like to paint then give different scales a try. You never know what you might like. And more and more companies are producing fantasy and sci-fi stuff in those larger scales, so even if historical isn't your thing there are still plenty of great figures. For example, Knight Models has some nice LoTR figures in 72mm and 1/10 scale busts. They're even available through the CMON store!
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Yep, will do Oist! A ton of pics, because if I receive good results my hope is that others will try it...
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Did you ever give it a go, Mr Jim?
While I have moved all the way to Florida and been here several days, my stuff is taking longer to arrive. The movers won't be here until 2 June. While I won't be doing anything miniature related, I am working on a project to increase my skill with oils. Doing a portrait in oils, so standby for WIP pics.
While I have moved all the way to Florida and been here several days, my stuff is taking longer to arrive. The movers won't be here until 2 June. While I won't be doing anything miniature related, I am working on a project to increase my skill with oils. Doing a portrait in oils, so standby for WIP pics.
SkelettetS
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oil painting, thats cool cant wait to see what you come up with
Demihuman
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oil painting, thats cool cant wait to see what you come up with
Yeah super excited to see where this goes! There are home electroplating kits out there too. I thought about chroming one of those Eldar titans for while....
Here is a linky: http://www.caswellplating.com/
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MrJim
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I got tied up with a project at the store (and forgot to take the mini with me)
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Will post pics of my oil painting soon. Pulled this guy out and looked at him today: let the painting begin! Again...
Gandalf the Grey
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Love it Ben, I'm glad it got there safely. I'm intrigued to see what you do with the freehand.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Ok, not a miniature but still art and still important for those that wish to paint well. I am reproducing a work of a Master, Johannes Vermeer's "Girl with Pearl Earring." The Mona Lisa of Northern Europe. Dutch painters of the Baroque Period are perhaps my favorite, other than Carvaggio (my all time fav). Here is a pic of the colors blocked in and ready to be blended with linseed oils and a soft Kolinsky sable.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Hey thanks Killer B. I'm just having fun, enjoying the process and [with luck] becoming a better miniaturist.
You can't make a more realistic skin tone than that provided by oil paint and perhaps some stand oil to make the stuff shimmer with transluscence. Therefore, I've got to play around with it to learn its properties. Pictured below is some minimal blending done so that I could properly assign the values and see how it all works together. She looks a little strange, but the hues will make more sense with the whole composition:
You can't make a more realistic skin tone than that provided by oil paint and perhaps some stand oil to make the stuff shimmer with transluscence. Therefore, I've got to play around with it to learn its properties. Pictured below is some minimal blending done so that I could properly assign the values and see how it all works together. She looks a little strange, but the hues will make more sense with the whole composition:
BloodFather of Kharnath
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I'm essentially doing her "alla prima," or by using wet-on-wet. This is as opposed to glazing one layer at a time, or a variation of glazing AND wet on wet that most painters use. So this means I need this single layer to blend very well since I do not have the benefit of getting the beautiful tonal changes inherent to glazing. I ultimately want to glaze and prefer it, but for this project I wanted to master some wet blending techniques and quickly learn as much as I could from the techniques. So, linseed oil is the type of oil that the majority of pigments in oil paints are cut with. Some brands might use walnut oil, etc, and the type of oil (or binder) can greatly influence things such as longevity, yellowing and cracking, and drying time. However, I use 4 parts linseed thinned with one part Turpentine because it helps the colors pool into each other (to finally answer your question). Also, with a thicker bristle brush used initially but not to blend, it really helps take advantage of the texture of the canvas to imitate skin.
