Gandalf the Grey
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BloodFather's Axis of Chaos
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BloodFather of Kharnath
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nice work mate, nice to see you back over here!
...minis are so much more fun than politics
Indeed. Except for the politics of minis....we all know that Muslim immigrants plan to bring TMM to our children.
Cheers Skel. You know, taking a look at your own WIP makes me realize just how much I have missed. Beautiful Space Marine and I really cannot wait to see what you do with Axenarf. Also happy to hear you are going to revisit some of Stephen Simon's minis in the future. You are still one of my painting heroes, that's for sure!!!!
BloodFather of Kharnath
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And about time too
Really happy you are back.
How did your canvas/oil experiments went?
This new project looks really interesting, and I will follow this black armour approach as I like those colours a lot.
Good to be back. I feel like I am home again. Though I do admit to being ridiculously busy right now. I am taking 4 classes right now and three of them are accelerated, which means rather than being the traditional 4 month classes, they are only two months long. My reading needs to be completed by Thursday night of each week, and this generally equals about 400 pages. And these are textbook pages, not the novel types. Add to this studying for the pre-law exam, volunteering for Big Brother Big Sister program, and making political rants on Facebook, I struggle to find brush time.
M the experiments with oil and canvas were put on hold just like my mini painting endeavors. BUT I plan to pick them up again. Thank you all for the warm welcome.
Darthmarsh
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Welcome back buddy
This was my thought also? I think I remember seeing somebody gold leafing a stormcast eternal on Facebook a while ago, I should have saved the link for you.
This was my thought also? I think I remember seeing somebody gold leafing a stormcast eternal on Facebook a while ago, I should have saved the link for you.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Thanks fellerz. I must admit that I'd love to try the silver leaf on this guy, but after such a long hiatus from paimting I think it's best to let the acrylic and oil flow...it's tough resisting this technique though, since this bust is so good for it. I have another bust in mind though that may be easier to silver leaf.
Darth if if you run across it again please let me know. Would be very, very interested in this. Dmitry Feseshco is the only one I know to use gold leaf on minis up until now. A Stormcast Eternal would be fitting though, since my understanding is that the more surface area you have to work with, the better.
Pleasure to meet you ArchArad. You seem to have got acquainted fairly quickly. Was the same for me, thanks to this great group of regulars.
Darth if if you run across it again please let me know. Would be very, very interested in this. Dmitry Feseshco is the only one I know to use gold leaf on minis up until now. A Stormcast Eternal would be fitting though, since my understanding is that the more surface area you have to work with, the better.
Pleasure to meet you ArchArad. You seem to have got acquainted fairly quickly. Was the same for me, thanks to this great group of regulars.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Thanks for thinking of me Canny. I remember your hiatus from painting awhile back, and it was lovely to have you return.
Here are a few projects that I had shelved at one point or another. Definite plans for the Flower Knight to get completed soon. Just formulating some basing/freehand ideas. Also, what do you guys think of doing his sword in all Gold? I was thinking sky earth gold on the blade itself, with a horizon line and all to make it look nice and shiney. Think I can pull it off, anyway. The same rules apply with SENMM when using colors as using a mirror like finish. Just ask Skeletette with that blue monster he did awhile back. Anyway, here they are:
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Here are a few projects that I had shelved at one point or another. Definite plans for the Flower Knight to get completed soon. Just formulating some basing/freehand ideas. Also, what do you guys think of doing his sword in all Gold? I was thinking sky earth gold on the blade itself, with a horizon line and all to make it look nice and shiney. Think I can pull it off, anyway. The same rules apply with SENMM when using colors as using a mirror like finish. Just ask Skeletette with that blue monster he did awhile back. Anyway, here they are:
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BloodFather of Kharnath
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More progress. Is it a decent face? Can't tell if I like it, I think I do.
Ignore how the armor looks in the first two shots; I shot at an angle that emphasized its matte properties. The third pic is more irl looking. Also, will look very different when the other parts are done because they are all mainly black with very little highlighting. I glazed over the standard steel with 2 parts green ink/1 part brown ink, then started going darker and darker. Not pictured is the lamp black oil paint I added...
Face is oils and acrylics.
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Ignore how the armor looks in the first two shots; I shot at an angle that emphasized its matte properties. The third pic is more irl looking. Also, will look very different when the other parts are done because they are all mainly black with very little highlighting. I glazed over the standard steel with 2 parts green ink/1 part brown ink, then started going darker and darker. Not pictured is the lamp black oil paint I added...
Face is oils and acrylics.
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Bailey03
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The face looks good. You've got nice shadow and highlight placement, and I think the contrast works well for the scale. If you wanted to continue to work on it, I'd suggest adding a bit more color variation to the skin. Nothing major, just some slight tints. Those bags under his eyes could use a bit of purple or blue. You could put a bit more red in his cheeks. Maybe a very subtle blue glaze over his lower jaw to hint at stubble. I figure with that facial hair, the rest would be pretty clean shaven, so I'd keep the stubble effect very subtle, just a slight color shift. When I do this on my faces, I'll take a cup or well palette. Put about two drops of ink and then fill up the rest of the cup with water. You can take a look at the samurai I'm working on. There's nothing extreme with the colors, just slight shifts in tone here and there.
Now, I'm not sure what happens when you go glazing over oils. As long as the oils are dry, I'd expect it would be fine. But you may want to talk to people with some actual experience using oils on figures.
Another little thing you could do is add a catch light to the eyes. I put in a pure white dot as you can see on the samurai. On larger figures you can skip that and instead apply a gloss varnish to the eyes. And then there are people who do both. Just something to think about.
Now, I'm not sure what happens when you go glazing over oils. As long as the oils are dry, I'd expect it would be fine. But you may want to talk to people with some actual experience using oils on figures.
Another little thing you could do is add a catch light to the eyes. I put in a pure white dot as you can see on the samurai. On larger figures you can skip that and instead apply a gloss varnish to the eyes. And then there are people who do both. Just something to think about.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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Why, thank you Bails. You are just the person I wanted feedback from, and just the sort of advice I was looking for. Much of what you said affirms some things I was thinking. First, re: the catch lights, I placed some there but tried to make them very small because I made them bigger first and it was just too much. Now apparently too little so I will try to emphasize them more. Just don't wanna ruin them in the process
Ill do some subtle bags and scruff work as you suggest, too. Other than that not sure really how to improve it, and don't want to overwork it as I already am at risk of doing.
Fairly pleased with the results this far of my first bust. By no means is it a Bailey masterpiece, but I will say that the sculpt lends itself well to a good paint job.
Ill do some subtle bags and scruff work as you suggest, too. Other than that not sure really how to improve it, and don't want to overwork it as I already am at risk of doing.
Fairly pleased with the results this far of my first bust. By no means is it a Bailey masterpiece, but I will say that the sculpt lends itself well to a good paint job.
ArchArad
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Bailey is the person to speak to about faces - he has mad skills. The eyes could definitely do with a catch light - at the moment they seem a bit flat. I don't mean to seem as though I'm nitpicking, but is his left (right on the picture) iris smaller than the other one? It may just be the angle playing a trick of perspective.
Are you intending to do the whole breastplate in black? And if I may ask: why have you gone with inks over thinned paints or shades? Do you use artist inks or those specifically made for models? Just curious and trying to learn.
Keep on having fun with him - he looks like a great project to work on.
Are you intending to do the whole breastplate in black? And if I may ask: why have you gone with inks over thinned paints or shades? Do you use artist inks or those specifically made for models? Just curious and trying to learn.
Keep on having fun with him - he looks like a great project to work on.
Bailey03
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Thanks, ArchArad!
Now that you mention it (and I look closer), I think I can see the catch light you put in the eyes. I can definitely understand not wanting to change it for fear of messing up the eyes. Quite a few times I've tried to tweak the catch lights, made them too big, and then had to go back in with black or the iris color to clean it up. But, it can all be fixed with a little paint. =)
I think you should definitely be pleased with this one. The face looks great. The color variation is just a way to make it a little bit better. By the way, when you do the bags under the eyes, keep in mind it's just just a uniform blue/purple tint all around. The color is strongest at the corners, especially on the inside corner next to the nose. Look at pictures online for reference. Google image search is great. But I'd suggest avoiding professional photos that have been touched up or where people are made up to hide blemishes (like those bags and dark circles). Look for regular everyday people. I tend to have nice dark circles under my eyes so I'd post my photo... but that seems a bit narcissistic.
Now that you mention it (and I look closer), I think I can see the catch light you put in the eyes. I can definitely understand not wanting to change it for fear of messing up the eyes. Quite a few times I've tried to tweak the catch lights, made them too big, and then had to go back in with black or the iris color to clean it up. But, it can all be fixed with a little paint. =)
I think you should definitely be pleased with this one. The face looks great. The color variation is just a way to make it a little bit better. By the way, when you do the bags under the eyes, keep in mind it's just just a uniform blue/purple tint all around. The color is strongest at the corners, especially on the inside corner next to the nose. Look at pictures online for reference. Google image search is great. But I'd suggest avoiding professional photos that have been touched up or where people are made up to hide blemishes (like those bags and dark circles). Look for regular everyday people. I tend to have nice dark circles under my eyes so I'd post my photo... but that seems a bit narcissistic.
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YYeah I feel your not going to risk it as long as the oils dry ,Def just hit it a tad more with a tint by glazing it will really make it even better Benny boy...I was the same way until I was introduced by baily and canny a year ago then speaking to Jose Manuel Palomar es at crystal all top artists bring color in the face by 3 tones that vary top part of the face the forehead is a yellow very thinned by the way same is the cheeks and nose a red then the lower face the jawline and chin is a blue all this and a blue or purple where the bags are under the eys...you'll see this on every bust to a degree.....an I can see it in your lads face but a tad strong ter following these steps and you'll always include it....don't be scared just use a pic of the face after each time you glaze and then you'll no where to stop.your right there.again your the artist and what you see in front of you is better and more precise then us you make the final call either way my dude....great to have you back.
BloodFather of Kharnath
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I'll be narcissistic. Plus I wanna show off how much I've changed since I got out of the army. View attachment 44258View attachment 44259
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Look exactly like I pictured like a cross between Ryan gosling and Ragnar lothbrook with a dash of baron Quinn from into the badlands!!! Lolololololol if your weren't with such a beautiful woman I might've asked you out fer dinner ))
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BloodFather of Kharnath
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Hehehehehe.....aw shucks BaM and I'd have to oblige you on this man date
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Ill take a look at the eyes again. From one angle up there it makes it look off. But they are pretty close in size, though not perfect as you point out. Thank you...
One thing I did to the eyes was apply a very diluted red glaze, per a trick I picked up from Bailey to get a bloodshot look. The lighting obscured this though in my crappy photos.
Ok I did the ink with green brown rather than actual acrylics for a couple reasons. First, Scalecolour inks--and all inks--give a glossier look than normal matt acrylics. I really wanted the ink to help ease the transition from dark metals to light metals, so the glossiness of inks accomplished this where other paints would kill the shine too much.
