Clear oil paint?

Patyrn

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I'm thinking it might be useful to be able to blend shadow/highlight onto an acrylic base coat, but I would need something with the consistency of an oil paint that was transparent to blend into.

Does something like this exist?
 

jabbayoda

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I don't believe it's transparent, but didn't Bob Ross always start out with a coat of "Liquid White" to help blend colors? And Bob Ross was awesome!
 

Dragonsreach

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I'm thinking it might be useful to be able to blend shadow/highlight onto an acrylic base coat, but I would need something with the consistency of an oil paint that was transparent to blend into.

Does something like this exist?
There are several additives /solvents to thin acrylic paint allowing far better blending timescales than the quick drying times we experience with model acrylics.
Oil paints with their longer drying times are ideal mediums for extended blending.
However be aware that Blending can suppress highlights so that painters have to address the highlights seperately.
 

Patyrn

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There are several additives /solvents to thin acrylic paint allowing far better blending timescales than the quick drying times we experience with model acrylics.
Oil paints with their longer drying times are ideal mediums for extended blending.
However be aware that Blending can suppress highlights so that painters have to address the highlights seperately.

I might have been somewhat unclear. The Acrylic is the base, and I want to be able to highlight and shade it with oil paints without also having to paint over the entire base coat with a base coat of oil.
 

Einion

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Patyrn said:
I might have been somewhat unclear. The Acrylic is the base, and I want to be able to highlight and shade it with oil paints without also having to paint over the entire base coat with a base coat of oil.
FWIW that is what I thought you meant from the thread title.

You can do the type of blending you want to do in a number of ways, and you may not actually need any additives or mediums to help*. Have you tried any experiments yet and run into problems, is that why you think you need something like a clear oil paint to help the process?

*Depends a bit on the oil paints you have (both brand and specific colour).

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Einion

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A couple of firms do make pigmented mediums which essentially amount to a clear oil paint, but they're intended for a specific type of work that isn't like what you're hoping to do.

The most basic aid for this kind of thing is simply to let down the paint a little with a tiny addition of spirits - the majority of oil paints are more than oily enough to allow easy blending and glazing, it's just their viscosity that's getting in the way if you're using softhair brushes (that's why stiffer brushes are preferred by most painter painters for a lot of oil painting).

Plenty of people do use a medium of some sort to aid with blends and glazes; at the simplest this is just a little additional oil (often with a dab of spirits) but there are a whole rake of mediums, including many commercial types (e.g. Liquin) and numerous homemade concoctions too.

Einion
 

Patyrn

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You can do the type of blending you want to do in a number of ways, and you may not actually need any additives or mediums to help*. Have you tried any experiments yet and run into problems, is that why you think you need something like a clear oil paint to help the process?

I've tried it by just trying to feather out oil from the shadow and I can never seem to get the kind of smooth fade I can get when blending wet in wet. I haven't tried thinning the oil paints when doing this though. Do you have any suggestions for techniques I might try?
 

ERGO FLUX

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any type of oil paint can be painted on top of acrylic, you can use it for shadows, blending or anything, you might try Max2, it is a type of oil paint that can be thined with water and clean up with soap and water...
 

Einion

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Patyrn said:
I've tried it by just trying to feather out oil from the shadow and I can never seem to get the kind of smooth fade I can get when blending wet in wet. I haven't tried thinning the oil paints when doing this though. Do you have any suggestions for techniques I might try?
Well the first thing I'd suggest is just thinning the paint a tad with turps or white spirit/mineral spirits - it's amazing just how much difference this can make in the handling even with the most minute additions.

You may benefit from working the paint more, initially with a stiffer brush before switching to a softer brush for final smoothing (saves wear on the softer brushes). Traditionally something like mongoose was often used here, but there are synthetic equivalents now. But like I say lots of painters use a medium of some kind to help with this sort of thing - they do literally act like a lubricant. If you happen to have a little bottle of oil that you got with your paints that should work fine, but Liquin or another alkyd medium is a good choice as a true medium and it provides some key advantages, no. 1 of which is speeding drying.

Do be aware using nearly any medium will tend to increase gloss though, sometimes significantly.


ERGO FLUX said:
any type of oil paint can be painted on top of acrylic, you can use it for shadows, blending or anything, you might try Max2, it is a type of oil paint that can be thined with water and clean up with soap and water...
I recommend people steer clear of the water-miscible oil paints since the quality is generally not that great (as you can tell from the pricing) and that 'feature' isn't anything like it's cracked up to be. As for the cleanup with soap and water, regular oil paints can too!

Einion
 

ERGO FLUX

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the water-miscible oil paint, such as Max2, is quite good and does a good job also...is it the best paint in the world, no...but it is good and should not be considered as a bad or too of a low quality paint to use...
 

Einion

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Nobody said they weren't good enough to use, plenty of paints are good enough. The main thing though is this thread isn't specifically about this kind of oil paint, and they don't have any direct advantage for what was being asked about.

Einion
 
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