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Darthmarsh

Darthmarsh

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Jesus you lunatic!! I bet that’s ages? Rather than a pen or brush could you not make a tool? Maybe a toothpick clued into an old brush handle? Either way mate don’t get despondent, it’s looking great
 
metalasmedium

metalasmedium

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Darthmarsh said:
Jesus you lunatic!! I bet that’s ages? Rather than a pen or brush could you not make a tool? Maybe a toothpick clued into an old brush handle? Either way mate don’t get despondent, it’s looking great
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Thanks tim! Yeah making a special tool is the way to go!
 
MAXXxxx

MAXXxxx

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well if you have an AB you could try the following:
- have a wooden cloth clip (something like this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...R04rbg6eY_8MNFVeu2bBys4rj6-hZbmMbuW0&usqp=CAc) close to the surface and at an angle
- then aim the AB at the clip and spray.
It will make a random dotted pattern.

with the dilution of the paint and the distance of the clip from the surface and it's angle you can control the dot sizes and density (closer is smaller, I'm not sure now the dilution, but I think it was less dilution=smaller dots as the AB can't atomize it enough).

Also you might need to do multiple 'layers' in multiple shades to get rid of some larger blobs + some touchups with a brush.

But first test on a piece of paper/plastic. It will never be as uniform as the dotting you do with the brush so you may not like it at all. Also needs a bit of excercise to get a hang of it.
I think it could work great as a rough base step, refined with the brush where needed later.

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completely lazy and somewhat expensive way for iridescent wings: using colorshifts from companies (GA, Vallejo, etc. have colorshift lines) or iridescent/interference/oxide paints from GoldenAcrylics. Shaded with inks, highlighted with metallics(Scale75's white alchemy is great here)/iridescents(I have a GA irid white, that's niceish, but sometimes I can't see the diff between that and a light metallic color)


edit: not a figure, but a paper from the AB-school, where it was part of the course: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8zv5RASuat5Dedpv8 (the brown dots in the background are made using the technique above)
 
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metalasmedium

metalasmedium

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MAXXxxx said:
well if you have an AB you could try the following:
- have a wooden cloth clip (something like this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...R04rbg6eY_8MNFVeu2bBys4rj6-hZbmMbuW0&usqp=CAc) close to the surface and at an angle
- then aim the AB at the clip and spray.
It will make a random dotted pattern.

with the dilution of the paint and the distance of the clip from the surface and it's angle you can control the dot sizes and density (closer is smaller, I'm not sure now the dilution, but I think it was less dilution=smaller dots as the AB can't atomize it enough).

Also you might need to do multiple 'layers' in multiple shades to get rid of some larger blobs + some touchups with a brush.

But first test on a piece of paper/plastic. It will never be as uniform as the dotting you do with the brush so you may not like it at all. Also needs a bit of excercise to get a hang of it.
I think it could work great as a rough base step, refined with the brush where needed later.

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completely lazy and somewhat expensive way for iridescent wings: using colorshifts from companies (GA, Vallejo, etc. have colorshift lines) or iridescent/interference/oxide paints from GoldenAcrylics. Shaded with inks, highlighted with metallics(Scale75's white alchemy is great here)/iridescents(I have a GA irid white, that's niceish, but sometimes I can't see the diff between that and a light metallic color)


edit: not a figure, but a paper from the AB-school, where it was part of the course: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8zv5RASuat5Dedpv8 (the brown dots in the background are made using the technique above)
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Wow thanks Max! Thanks for the long post.. I will look into this for sure! Maybe with all these techniques in mind i will come up with something fast and nice. The problem with AB is the paint is lacquer base and i can't do it inside the house... I will try what i have in mind tonight and post the result, i just need to loosen up a bit, the dots doesn't need to be so small and so perfect, that is what is killing me.
 
metalasmedium

metalasmedium

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Thanks all for support and tricks!

@MaX, thanks, the ab spatter technique is nice! But i wanted some regular dots, i can use it in other projects though.


This is with a bigger brush, this time i try to go as fast as i can with a minimum brush control. It takes a fraction of the time, i should be done quick!

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metalasmedium

metalasmedium

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ekipage said:
Looks really good. One other thing you might want to look into is a dotting tool (https://www.amazon.com/customerpicks/Explore-dotting-tools-for-painting/debac66a1fe2912c2811) as a possible solution.
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Thanks equi! I don't think the dots tool carry much paint! My brush carry a big load of paint, my autonomy is remarkable, i do a section with about 2-3 loads only! I think a fond my tool now, a bigger brush for bigger dots and more autonomy and going super fast with minimum micro control. I just dont give a damn about absolute precision!! Micro painting for micro projects!
 
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metalasmedium

metalasmedium

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Thanks guys!! Really kind!!

Even stippling didn't work!! After one wing my stippling brush was acting up and i could not keep the same pattern and other problems... so i don't know maybe after 4 times trying and re prime the wing with black i said "fuck it!!" I will use an old trick i use to do in the 80's with foam from the miniature boxes an make a foam tool!!

I know i know today they sell these tools but back in the time i came up with the idea on my own, that was a long time before internet!!


Here is an update,
 
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gorb

gorb

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Well done, I think the wings look stunning! That is some super cool subtle blending between the different shades.
 
ekipage

ekipage

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oh yeah, that wing looks pretty sweet. The colors over the base scattered silver give it a really cool effect!
 
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