Cornbread

Cornbread

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Hi

I am looking forward to the challenge of sculpting my first mini. Thanks for having this sculpt along!:brushwave:
 

cybersquig

Dangerous when wet
You're most welcome :) I wish there was a smiley that waves a sculpting tool rather than a paintbrush back at you! Any ideas what you're thinking about sculpting? or are you going to go with my mad hatter project? either is fine of course, but having a solid idea of what your concept is should really help you get kick started.

Welcome to the CMON forums too :)

James
 

cybersquig

Dangerous when wet
Hey Cornbread, sorry, I missed your post for some reason. Still, it's good to see how you're doing, the wire looks great :) The proportions look good, and the wire to go through the head is crisply bent double. Nice! As for the putty, again it's hard to see too much from 1 angle, but he doesn't look 2d to me. The putty seems a touch rough right now? That'll help with the adhesion of the next layers, but it's also important that you get the hang of smoothing the putty, preferably with clay shapers and lubricant, but it depends on specifically which tools you have of course. Lastly I'd suggest you grab a knife and cut back the bulk under the hips, unless your mini is to be wearing a skirt or something, as it will force you to have the seat of the trousers/pants to be rather low. Overall though dude, a nice job! Good luck with the bulking out :)

James
 

Onemonk

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I was just going to comment on the how low the bulk on the pelvis is. Are you replicating the Sculpt-along figure, or doing something unique?

For putty smoothing, do you do that while the putty is still soft? or as it is hardening, and kind of polish it? I see some figures where the putty looks glossy. It would be nice to get that sort of finish for the fleshy bits.
JIM

edit: It might be nice to do a short tutorial on how to smooth and polish the putty.
 

cybersquig

Dangerous when wet
I can do that, though it's really very simple, I simply use the clay shaper like a pencil eraser ('rubber' in the UK, snigger snigger) to iron out any lumps and bumps. Done patiently and with little pressure can get rid of virtually any bumps going. As for the polishing...well some putties can have this finish and some can't...Why do they need to be glossy? I'm not entirely sure I see the point if they are going to be cast or painted :)

James
 

Onemonk

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I didn't realize my picture had gotten out! okay, not me, I have more hair at least.

@cybersquig- I have just noticed on some sculptors photos that the flat smooth areas have been polished to a shine. This makes for a very clean casting I would imagine, but can be good for blending muscle shapes together.
JIM
 

cybersquig

Dangerous when wet
I understand. I can do it with pure greenstuff, but I mix it with MS, and that makes it more matt, even though the finish is just as smooth and castable. When I've done it on GS, I've used a clay shaper with a little liquid vaseline. Particularly now I use talc as a lubricant, I find it very hard to get that glossy shine. Maybe someone else can elaborate here?
James
 

Cornbread

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SO where were we? I followed allong with last weeks instructions and bulked out the armature, just no pics. I followed along with the pants demo, only mine is more of a skirt. I think it worked well, and I hid the seam in a fold. I see on the back side that the skirt is following the bend of the legs, something that would not happen if the mini was standing still. I think that was more the work of the very thin green stuff. Building on that success, I did kinda the same thing for the top of the robe. Just cut a hole for the head, put the GS over the armature and start pushing it around. The sleeves were real easy to make.
Finally, there is an fabric piece over the front ( see source pic) . Again, roll gs and stick on. Now I am just waiting to see which step to do next-- The hood which will be down or the head. There is always the hands, staff, and fixing the back of the robe too.

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This went so easy that I want to start trying to do some armor............
 
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cybersquig

Dangerous when wet
Blimey mate, what a lot of progress! :)

That is coming along nicely. YOu're right about the back of the legs, but that can be fixed by building up putty in the kink until it is straight again. The cloth looks smoothly finished and that is great. In terms of future stuff, my suggestion would be that next time you do this you make a real effort to keep the hem of the robes tidy. Then you can add folds around that area more realistically, and it saves you doing so when it has cured. To stop the thin putty sheet sticking where you don't want it to in future, try sticking it to the cork where you want it. and use that as a brace to avoid the problem. This isn't always useful, but when it comes to floor length robes, I think it could be a useful thing to bear in mind. I know that some of the guys at GW swear by it.

This is looking good dude, I mean it. The thing that would improve this most of all is if you work on your little folds around where the belt would go, where the fabric would be stretched, bunched or raised from the body below. That comes with practice though, don't in any sense be disheartened, this is already better than some professional sculptors frankly, keep plugging away! I think the addition of a belt would help break up the monotony of the robes for you, if you decide to go that route, and this week you'll be able to work on the chest some more :) Don't let it get swallowed up by those wide sleeves, keep your proportions accurate :)

Great stuff!
James
 
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