well, what i meant was that i dont think this mini is made and cast with display or art purposes in mind. ofc it has to be allowed to make minis like this, even for toy puproses, but i think its distasteful.
Crossing the line, miniatures wise...
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well, what i meant was that i dont think this mini is made and cast with display or art purposes in mind. ofc it has to be allowed to make minis like this, even for toy puproses, but i think its distasteful.
SkelettetS
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For f*ck's sake, if you want to cross the line, at least do it well
my thought exactly. man, what a piece of junk!
RuneBrush
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Just read through all the comments, I think with regards to the original mini posted, it IS crossing a line, in the same way as having a photo on the wall of a concentration camp gas chamber in use during WW2 would be. Really can't see why anybody would actually consider this mini as appropriate to a) sculpt or b) buy - it's not artistic, would have very limited uses in a game and certainly isn't fiction of any kind. As has been pointed out, it's not sculpted or painted to a particularly great standard either.
Mini's that 100% represent real life are not always to everyone's tastes, however I think when the subject matter is something that is "morally inappropriate" it most certainly has crossed the line.
Mini's that 100% represent real life are not always to everyone's tastes, however I think when the subject matter is something that is "morally inappropriate" it most certainly has crossed the line.
Bloodhowl
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But what is "morally inappropriate" when it comes to art and other cultures? What may be inappropriate to us, might be perfectly acceptable in another country.
I happen to agree with everything you have said, but how do you enforce western morals on the rest of the world, short of genocide?
RuneBrush
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I don't believe there should be a difference in morals when it comes to the arts. Most of our moral compass is actually directed by the media (newspapers and the news) and torture in pretty much any form is a social "no no".
I don't think western morals can ever be adopted/enforced on other cultures. One issue I see is when people come/go to another country and expect to be able to follow their own morals & customs - and I mean this both ways, if I went over to a different country, I would expect to integrate with the culture there, equally if somebody from that country were to come to the UK I'd expect them to integrate with our culture.
No Such Agency
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The Lyndie England figure is a crap sculpt obviously being sold "for the lulz" as I can't see it having any real gaming or collecting value. The slave figure with Yulia Tymoshenko's head from the Dakka link is a revolting piece of misogynist political propaganda intended for nasty little Russian nationalists.
So yeah, you could say they cross the line but it's a free world and about all we can do about it is trash-talk them on the internet.
So yeah, you could say they cross the line
but it's a free world and about all we can do about it is trash-talk them on the internet.
A Luna
A Lunatic
I must say I didn't get offended by the miniature posted by OP, just because I didn't know of that picture. Because of it's background it shouldn't be acceptable. A year back I saw Jarhead's Hell Dorado Baby:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/205521?browseid=581466
I was shocked, but not offended. Now I've seen some very awful things (geez thx internet) so I think it's not much of a problem anymore (Jarhead's miniature). I think very provoking miniatures are just not needed in this hobby where it's mostly about having fun and enjoying stuff. Otherwise... 18+ mini's and miniatures for all ages should stay 2 categories.
I'm a mod on a different forum which is family-friendly, I was disturbed that I had to take down pictures of several miniatures because they weren't family friendly. Ofcourse, they are pewter and plastic, but it's the image which kids on there aren't allowed to see.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/205521?browseid=581466
I was shocked, but not offended. Now I've seen some very awful things (geez thx internet) so I think it's not much of a problem anymore (Jarhead's miniature). I think very provoking miniatures are just not needed in this hobby where it's mostly about having fun and enjoying stuff. Otherwise... 18+ mini's and miniatures for all ages should stay 2 categories.
I'm a mod on a different forum which is family-friendly, I was disturbed that I had to take down pictures of several miniatures because they weren't family friendly. Ofcourse, they are pewter and plastic, but it's the image which kids on there aren't allowed to see.
Master of fact
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Not offended by the subject but the fact its a crap minature.
