Current Trends in Miniature Painting

precinctomega

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I\'ve noticed some trends in mini painting that are most noticeable on CMON but have not yet totally burst out onto the mainstream. Some are obvious, others are less so, and I thought I\'d ask for some come-back to see whether people agree or think I\'m way off-base.

1. NMM. A trend that\'s been gathering pace for about six years. It\'s almost unheard of now to see Rackham or Void minis that use metallic paints, and more and more examples are being seen on the GW gaming tables as this trend moves down from the pro-artists to the talented gamers. SE-NMM has enjoyed some popularity but does not seem to have taken off so well, possibly due to the technical difficulty of convincingly executing the technique.

Both techniques are finally being seen at GD events world-wide, but GW still seems to favour the use of metallics.

2. Limited Palettes. Again, led mainly by Rackham painters, the inclincation of the mid-nineties towards models packed with minute, mouth-watering details seems to be ebbing away to a more modernist appreciation of large, flat areas of colour. The focus for the pros and experts is now more on conveying the texture and richness of the fabric than in showing off how tinily they can paint letters.

The gamers are still to catch up, but many armies now being produced are focusing on large blocks of colour, broken up by detailed areas such as skin and parchment. GW Imperial Guard ranges and the classic Space Marines are where this trend is best seen.

As a sub-text to this trend, some pros are showing both inclinations, with the details being immensely subtle additions to the base colour. Not, I suspect, something we will see much of on the gaming table.

3. Thoughtful Conversions. Not to do down the pros, who\'ve been doing clever, delicate conversions for years, but only now are we beginning to see the lower echelons of expertise appreciate things like balance and proportion, not to mention a reduction in the clutter that used to make identifying many a conversion a sport in itself.

I\'m sure there are others, but these ones have caught my attention. This is based on a vague study of what models are selling best on eBay and for the highest prices, as well as comparing recent CMON, B&C, Dakka and Portent submissions.

Regards

R.
 

frenchkid

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Wow!!! Talk about people with time on there hand. I have to agree with most of what you said there ( I say most cuz I\'m not sure I fuly understood the part about conversion :p). I think you could also had somthing like more realistique colors, duno if that\'s a new trend or not, but I haven\'t been noticing a lot of minis with flashy colors lately. I actually tend to prefere the more cartoonie style, problem is I don\'t have a clue about how to paint it. :p
 

DennisMech

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Well what I am so happy to see almost all gone is the overly bright and colorful catoony look of GW\'s \"red period\". There\'s still cartoony stuff, but it\'s much more tasteful and well chosen. I still cannot get myself to do NMM, but soon i will be preparing for golden daemon (I start early) and I always push myself to try new things (last year it was freehand, which I now am pretty good at). Limited palettes are fantasitic in my opinion, and I\'m shifting over to it. You\'re right about people not being so obsessed with how small they can write the words along a sword, although I do see this still in places like freehand, but I think this fits there. I still see a lot of terrible conversions, where people wildly glue far out of scale double ended axe\'s onto a tiny snotling, but that is only really common in the gaming armies.
 

Chrispy

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Many people forget that in the world of art, we\'ve already gone through thesephases. Heck, if you look back thousands of years ago, you\'d see that relief statues had small weapons, and paintings used gold foil and opaque paints used as metallics is something pretty much done after the Reinnasance. In fact, you could call the Rackham figs Baroque, becase that\'s what that style does: it uses heavy ornamentation and deep crevaces to make shadows so it can be seen better. I\'m just waiting for the impressionist miniaturists, were\'s the melting clocks? :p
 
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syco-pyro

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gw using metals-not true

actually ive been noticing that just about every \"new release\" fig is done using NMM
at least it looks that way. (i think its only the EAVY METAL guys doing this)..
 

DennisMech

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Actualy, it\'s all still real metal, it\'s just very well done.
I just realised why it makes sense for GW to use real metals over NMM, because if they did, people would probably follow suit, and it would eliminate the market for them. Plus real manly metals rule:D

Uh oh, here comes another NMM/Metalic argument...
 

Nelson

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Awhhhh.....It\'s nice to be back in the forums after a short break.......You know yer goin\' into withdrawls when you start calling people by CMON names.......I think in the course of the weekend I\'ve called my sister Tooshy, and other family members Finn, Supervike, etc.....*Shut Up, It\'s not creepy, damnit!!!!* Well, it\'s kinda creepy......But y\'know, you guys are kinda like family, with a little less hatred and rivalry involved......;)

Aaaannnnways, On the topic, I\'m sure painting quality in general is improving....I mean, just last year, the so called \"tips\" and \"painting guides\" (ALL freakin\' useless) on the GW were all about drybrushing, and getting the paint in the lines.....basics, in other words....Now, most of the tutorials are still basic, and are great for beginners, but they mention layering, other advanced techniques, and THINNING your goddamn paint!!! If I had had these kinda tutorials when I was starting....well....I\'d be less.....worse......:)
 

Micha

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Guides

Well, ´ve had a look into gW´s newest painting guide, and I think it´s not \'useless\' , sure, for many eople here it could seem rediculous, but as someone who is in a GW shop frequently, i can tell you (Nelson) that most gaming armies there would benefit from \'getting paint in the lines\' or a bit of drybrushing when done well. And I have to agree, the newest one has advanced tchniques, and for me \'advanced\' are those I have difficulties applying. - by the way, I´m also very happy with the new GW style getting less \'cartoony\', I think their older \'official\' minis looked horrle (e.g in th codex imperialis\' 2nd ed.
 

Impernouncable

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Most gamers suck as painters? :duh:

I give myself a 7/10 at best and I get wows when I drop my stuff on the table. Face it kids, good painters and modelers may be gamers but gamers are usually not good painters or modelers.

Another trend I have noticed is that sculpters are getting more exposure. About three years ago, when I was first expanding my horizons beyond GW, Ral Partha, and Reaper, I could only find a couple sculpter\'s personal sites and 1listSculpting. Now we have Steve Buddle, PF, Gael Goumond, UncHex, and a couple others putting up greens here and commenting on other forums. I think it\'s great that we can have that kind of contact with the folks who actually make the object of our collective obsessions.
:D
 

precinctomega

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Cartoony painting?

Now it\'s funny you should all (okay, some of you) mention the abandoned \'cartoony\' style.

I didn\'t mention it, because I have always seen that as a style dictated by the models (\'comedy\' Orks and big-head Marines). The clean look of GW painting in that period was led by Mike McVey and can still be seen in the Rivethead Studios work for Warmachine Prime. But althought the style was clean it wasn\'t cartoony - that was the models.

It is the rise of new, high-quality models from Reaver, Rackham and i-Kore predominantly that has challenged GW to scale their work close to the real world, so I didn\'t see that as a painting trend, but a commercial one.

As for having too much time on my hands... I do this at work when my brain is starting to melt.

;)
 

GunjiNoKanrei

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I do not think NMM is a current trend since it it so dominant these days.
For a brief moment I even had the impression that well done metallics were a new (returning) trend led by Jakob Nielsen\'s Slayer Sword Winner at UK GD this year and the fantastic Chaos Champion by Matt Verzani recently.
 

Jkaen

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By Cartoony what I took it to mean (and if i got the jist right i agree with) is that there is a move away from big bright bold clashing colours (which to me is best represented by Bobbie Wong) and towards the more subtle palettes (like Jeniffer Haley).

Personnally I prefer subtle palettes as you would see if I ever got my camera to take a decent picture!

Oh I just used those 2 as examples as their work is well known, hope no offense is taken
 

DennisMech

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Yes, but I think Bobby Wong does it with much more style. Every little detail had to be a sper bright color, even where inapropriate (little things, like the tops of sythes, pouches, etc..). Though the mini\'s also contributed as well, such as when GW tried to apeal to children, resulting in such mini\'s as Nagash.
I find a lot of the old stuff is just terrible.
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why is nagash simling for the camera?
 

precinctomega

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About Nagash...

Apparently - or so I heard on the grapevine - they did a concept sculpt for Nagash that was way nastier, but this was at a time when GW was conducting some parent-based focus groups, and they thought it was too gruesome for their little darlings.

I\'m somewhat inclined to agree with Gunji that perhaps the NMM wave is ebbing back again. Certainly Jakob\'s stuff is a glorious example of metallics done well, and I wonder if too many regular hobbyists are put off NMM by the level of technical competence required.

Another trend I forgot to mention, though, is the light-casting effect of torches, power weapons etc. I think that\'s going to be the NBG, since Jennifer\'s Oz Slayer Sword for the Rescue of Sister Joan.

Regards

R.
 

Tuubje

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Originally posted by Nelson
Awhhhh.....It\'s nice to be back in the forums after a short break.......You know yer goin\' into withdrawls when you start calling people by CMON names.......I think in the course of the weekend I\'ve called my sister Tooshy, and other family members Finn, Supervike, etc.....*Shut Up, It\'s not creepy, damnit!!!!* Well, it\'s kinda creepy......But y\'know, you guys are kinda like family, with a little less hatred and rivalry involved......;)

We like you too :)
And trends are there when a certain technique \"revolutions\". Suddenly most people do it and you try to catch up, improve yourself and try to evolve into a better painter.
 

frenchkid

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Originally posted by Tuubje
And trends are there when a certain technique \"revolutions\". Suddenly most people do it and you try to catch up, improve yourself and try to evolve into a better painter.

And then once you manage to actually get it right, you realize the trend has changed again :p I say go with what you like, I like the cartoonie style and actually bobby wong is the perfect exemple of the style of painting I like, so I\'ll just go with it :D Maybe in a decade or so I\'ll get it right, and by that time it\'ll be a trend :p
 

precinctomega

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Oops...

Yeah, I meant Victoria - sorry Vic!

Should be obvious, shouldn\'t it? Australia? Victoria? I mean, who ever heard of a city called \'Jennifer\'?

R.
 

aon14

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Someone does something generally isn\'t done. If it\'s eyecatching enough then it can become a fashion.

I bet burnishing will catch on, it\'s easy and obviously real metal looks metallic.
If I were keen on a golden demon I\'d give it a twirl anyhow.

I thought that avoiding fiddly stuff was just sensible rather than a trend. All those fiddly things just mean your figure will likely have no composition. There\'ll be things catch your eye all over the show and the thing\'ll just look busy rather than cool.
 
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