Database of Miniatures (28mm)

Paheej

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Topic of Discussion: Creating a Consumer Oriented Database of Miniatures and Game Systems (28mm-32mm)

Background: Over the past few years I've noticed more miniature manufacturer operations start up. A few good examples that did not exist when I first started the hobby are: Avatars of War, Warlord, Privateer Press and Mantic Games. The increase in manufacturers has been a huge boon to the miniature gamer/collecter/painter. It has given us choices that have fulfilled gaps in other manufacturer's lines, decreased prices, and provided alternatives to existing products. Noticably though there is no centralized database/website that sorts and categorizes these miniatures. Sure, some manufacturers categorize their own models (for instance Reaper) and some retailers categorize all the minis in their store (CoolMiniOrNot) however there doesn't seem to be a site that does this minis it does not sell (which makes sense). TMP, which lists news and has a directory of manufacturers, looks like something from 1995 doesn't actually list miniatures in any kind of searchable or query friendly database.

Concept: To recitfy this I am in the initial stages of planning a website that that will categorize minis from a large selection of manufacturers. The website would contain multiple database tables with information such as Manufacturer, Miniatures, Game Systems, Genre, Race, Artist, Retailers, etc. Gamers could use the system to look at a particular game system, for example:
A user would like to see possible miniatures that would fit GW->Warhammer Fantasy->Dark Elves->Witch Elves; the search would return:​
Witch Elves (GW), Blood Vestals (Raging Heroes), Nasithe - Darkspawn Hero (Reaper)​
Each returned result would have: a picture, a link to manufacturer, a link to reputable retailers that carry product
Other users could look for a particular miniature based on artist or more generic criteria such as historical time period. Overall this would be a huge tool for consumers to compare products that are very similar, think of it as something very similar to edmunds.com, a car website that allows users to look products based on different critieria, such as type, price, and features.

Requested Feedback:I know that I would find such a tool useful, however I would like some feedback on what others think? Would you use this tool/website if I made it? What other suggestions should I think about in the planning stage?

Motivation: My motivation for this product comes primarily from a ton of independent manufacturer's and artists have made great miniatures but they aren't getting enough exposure. I also would like a nice side project to show that I have strong database and web background for some consulting work back home. It is probably the best way for me to give back the mini community (I'm not a studmuffin painter like most of the people here) however I feel I have a pretty strong self-taught database background that is actually a somewhat rare skill. I'd like to avoid placing ads on pages since I'm not trying to monetize the project.

*I'm in Afghanistan so it might take me a couple days to make any responses.
 
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me_in_japan

New member
I think this would be

a) A hugely valuable resource
b) A hugely time consuming endeavour

But, if you reckon it's something you can do (and it seems like you do), and if you reckon you can keep up the motivation, then I say heck yeah, go for it!

Would you be including OOP minis, or just ones which are currently available?

ps - Your Mantic link actually goes to the PP page.
 

PegaZus

Stealth Freak
I'm not so sure I'd use it. It would depend on exactly how detailed the database fields were. For example, I do like Reaper's Figure finder. I've yet to actually need it however. But I can see how their's is very useful to D&D players and diorama builders. I'm not a gamer, so finding figs that fit a gaming system wouldn't be very useful to me. But finding ones that have a book in one hand and a rubber chicken in the other (extreme and ridiculous example) might be.
 

me_in_japan

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I think it could be very useful for people (like me) who enjoy playing 40k (or other games) but dont want to feel obliged to use GW (or other companies') miniatures. Basically, if done right it would work well as a proxy-army builder.
 

Paheej

New member
Mock up One

Alright, here is the first mockup of the various fields a miniature could have. Sub bullets are other fields that will be in the higher order bullet (ie a Manufacturer would have a hyperlink, location, game system(s), and genre(s)). I'm basically trying to brainstorm all the different requests a user might make. Such as:

What Game Systems does this Manufacturer make?
I want to sort my results to only include Cavalry?

Miniature

  • Picture
  • Title
  • Artist
  • Manufacturer
    • Hyperlink
    • Location
    • Game System
    • Genre
  • Scale
  • Release Date
  • OOP? (Status)
  • Male/Female
  • Character/Trooper
  • Infantry/Cavalry/Monster
  • Race
  • Game System
    • Faction
      • Unit
        • Character/Trooper
          • Infantry/Cavalry/Monster
  • Genre
  • Retailers
    • Hyperlink
    • Location
  • Price
  • Number of Models Per Package
  • Price Per Model
  • Tags
  • Description

Requested Feedback:I'm looking for any more relationships that you don't think would be covered by the structure above. There are some duplicates up there, but that isn't the focus right now. I'm trying to get a full list of all possible variables and then parse it down/make it more efficient from there. After I get a good set ironed out I will go ahead and start designing the actual database and relationships.
 

me_in_japan

New member
The above seems good, but you could probably cut out the bit about price, as prices change all the time and you'd have a helluva time keeping the database up to date. That, and there are so many online retailers that sell the same thing at different prices. As long as there's a link to the manufacturers website, folks can compare prices for themselves.
 

captpicard

New member
I know this thread is old, but I wanted to let anyone who is interested know that I am launching a similar website this summer. I've been working on it for over a year know and it has tens of thousands of minis from some of the most popular games and lines around in it. If you're interested or have suggestions/requests, feel free to message me.
 

Paheej

New member
I know this thread is old, but I wanted to let anyone who is interested know that I am launching a similar website this summer. I've been working on it for over a year know and it has tens of thousands of minis from some of the most popular games and lines around in it. If you're interested or have suggestions/requests, feel free to message me.

Good stuff man, I was about 33% done with the coding when I got recalled by the Army. Unfortunately I am back in the middle east so the project is all you dude.
 
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