December 21, 2012?

supervike

Super Moderator
Honestly?

It scares the hell out of me.

Sure, my \'logical\' side says there have always been doomsayers and prophets of death, but it still freaks me the hell out.

Maybe not during normal waking hours, when the world is sane and such, but I do wake up in the dark hours and wonder and worry.
 

mattrock

New member
Originally posted by supervike
Honestly?

It scares the hell out of me.

Sure, my \'logical\' side says there have always been doomsayers and prophets of death, but it still freaks me the hell out.

Maybe not during normal waking hours, when the world is sane and such, but I do wake up in the dark hours and wonder and worry.

:D
I have to admit that while my rationality says \"yeah right\", there\'s a little voice in my fantastical imagination that goes...\"well?\"

Though it\'s not exactly keeping me up nights.
 

Sand Rat

New member
Meh. Meh. and Meh.


As an anthropologist, I would say that it is all a part of the nature of western civilization (which has a chunk of its roots in the Judeo-Christian Tradition) to look for signs of the coming of the end times - because things will somehow be better at that point.


As for the poles shifting (Geomagnetic Reversal) checking my old notes (cause you can date stuff by the field directionality (including pottery)) and a quick search on the net (after winnowing out all the fragging doom sayers and paranormal freaks) the earliest date I can come up with for the event to occur is 3000-4000 AD - ie 1k to 2k years from now. Our family line survived multiple flips in the past of the magnetic field on earth - there is nothing to say we wont survive the next one - Civilization as we know it may not survive, but life will. And since unless I manage to upload my brain to a computer or the figure out how to reverse the effects of aging and I last another 960 or so years, I really cant see how this will effect me personally, and don\'t really waste my time worrying about it.

As for the rest of the woo-woo\'s out there predicting death and destruction on a specific date I only know of three \"prophets\" who were correct in their predictions of doom for their followers in my lifetime here on Mudball 3, Sol System - Jim Jones, David Koresh and Marshall Applewhite. But they all made their prophecies come true, with some help from outside sources. I am far more worried about paying the bills, painting minis, feeding my cats, and finding a better paying job than I ever will be about an arbitrary date for the end of the world.
 

EArkham

Necromancer
@mattrock Everything in that list came directly from that Discovery channel show. Methinks you should probably research some of those individual topics. While Discovery channel can be educational, it has a strong tendency toward sensationalism on certain topics. :)

I mean, c\'mon... they give more than fair time to people like Graham Hancock, and they present him as though he\'s an authority rather than the pseudo-archaelogist he is.

Kep
 

mattrock

New member
@ steelcult - 1000 years from now huh? Sounds safe enough I suppose...But I\'m still going to keep the tin foil hat I made back during JesterzUSMC\'s thread just in case. lol

@Earkham - You are correct sir, it all came from the show. (which was actually on the History channel, but close enough) (come to think of it, why on History? There should be a Future channel.) The reason it all came from that show is because as I mentioned in the first post, I saw it recently and it was the first I\'d heard of it.

As for researching it? nah. I\'d have to actually place some measure of weight in it in the first place to go to that kind of time. I just think it\'s fun to talk about. BTW, did you see the \"Life After Humans\" special right after the 2012 show? Heh, talk about sensationalism. It\'s all fun to muse about though.
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
The world would be a much better place with source-criticism...


...and a much duller place as well! :D

I\'ve been meaning to start a thread about conspiracy theories and such as I\'m so fond of them (and the 10 minutes I believe them before actually looking up the sources).
 

Jike Ichi

New member
Lets say the poles switch in 2012. These are as mentioned geological things working. So it could take hundreds of years until the world stops and turns the other way round (if so). I think humans could adept that situation. Since they are real good at it...

And If asked about my opinion..I don\'t think much if anything will change. Interesting thing would be how animals adebt to that situation. Cause many believe birds and other kind relate on the magnetic field to navigate. So perhaps the birds will fly north instead of south in winter and will die a horrible death in snow
lol

What scares me more is the fast pace we have at making things a little bit warmer down here. So perhaps the climate change will be of greater concern than the switch of the poles!?
 

mattrock

New member
My understanding is that cows are contributing to the whole global climate change thing with all their burping and flatulence.

When I heard that I said to myself, \"finally a way I can help the environment!\" and I went out and bought some nice juicy steaks.

Just trying to do my part.

...and no, I didn\'t research the truth of the bovine methane crisis. And I don\'t want you to either. I can use the excuse. I love me some steak.
 

Jike Ichi

New member
Oh and concerning catastrophic theories: Yellowstone area is believed to be one real (REAL BIG) gigantic vulcano. So perhaps this part of the world will not make it into the year 2012...and Napoli will blow away soon cause of the Vesuv....Tokyo is waiting for the next big time earthquake....

Hell we are all doomed! lol
 

mud duck

New member
Originally posted by supervike
Yeah, I\'m reminded of the manual I saw once for what to do at the end of the world.


1. Bend over until head is between knees.

2. Kiss ass goodbye.

lollol


You forgot smoke a pack or two of Luckies.

Isn\'t that the date when the Earth lines up with the center of the Galaxy, creating a \"Grand Conversion\" or something like that? Plus it\'s not the end of the world, but the end of the age.

Oh, and it\'s not just the History/Discovery channels. We can not forget Coast to Coast AM :D:D
 

daemon boy

New member
-holds up sign \"the end is nigh!\"-
bah humbug...:cry:...it\'l be ok...i think.
anyway i agree it woud be rather spiffing to witness the end. maybe it wont be an end, rather a new begining...
what if we are allready dead...is this hell...heaven? ...no one knows???:no::no:
 

mud duck

New member
Originally posted by Jike Ichi
What scares me more is the fast pace we have at making things a little bit warmer down here. So perhaps the climate change will be of greater concern than the switch of the poles!?

Sorry, I still don\'t believe that Mankind is the Primary source of Global Warming. The people that decry mankind\'s roll in this sometimes forget that there is a big old sun out there that appears to be doing things that could be affecting this planet.
 

mattrock

New member
It just ocurred to me that if we all die in 2012, I guess there\'s not much need to worry about where the miniature industry will be in ten years eh?

Silver lining I tells ya! lol
 

daemon boy

New member
Originally posted by mattrock
It just ocurred to me that if we all die in 2012, I guess there\'s not much need to worry about where the miniature industry will be in ten years eh?

Silver lining I tells ya! lol

whats happening to the mini business?:mad:
 

mattsterbenz

New member
Sorry, but I couldn\'t help but laugh when I read that the Earth was going to shift 180 degrees and flip over. NOT going to happen. A pole shift is all magnetic. Basically, compasses would point south instead of north, electronics might get screwed up, etc. Nothing physical would happen to the planet.

We are not sure how long it takes, could be instant, could take thousands of years. Take a look at Neptune and Uranus. Their magnetic poles are not lined up anywhere near the axis of rotation, and tilted in crazy directions (take a look at images of the planets magnetic fields). Some astronomers (and myself) believe that the magnetic poles on those planets are in the very long process of switching their poles, which is a normal occurance.

-Matt
 

generulpoleaxe

New member
ever wondered why you have to adjust a compass to find true north, and that the adjustment increases slightly every so many years.

you do now.

scientists are just scare mongering just like with everything else so they can get bigger research grants.
they are no different from students, they will spout all sorts of crap to try and get money without having to realy work for it lol
 

Roger Bunting

New member
Hmm, will we have the 2012 Olympics? Will that be the source of a cataclysmic event, like, will people die of shock if they finish it in time?

Oh, another thing we\'re due for is a supernova going off near enough to affect us.
 

Naukhel

Active member
Toilets will also flush in the other direction.
Then we\'ll all be wanting machines like in the US embassy in Australia (Simpsons).
 

EArkham

Necromancer
Originally posted by mattrockBTW, did you see the \"Life After Humans\" special right after the 2012 show? Heh, talk about sensationalism. It\'s all fun to muse about though.

Haha, yeah, I did. I think I can pretty much sum up two hours with \"sooner or later, everything crumbles and falls apart.\" :D

But still, was kinda cool to see the CGI and muse on predictions. The part about Hoover Dam standing for such a long time (up to two years still pumping out power!) was really intriguing.

Kep
 
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