Does Santa have elves or gnomes?

[ipaintminis]

this past christmas my papa and i got in a...uh...we\'ll call it a conversation...about this topic (santas elves) and my papa says that elves (d&d version of course) wouldnt tinker like that, have beards like that, be that short, live in that cold of a climate, be restricted to one room to tinker, i dont know if i agree on all that, because hey! santa knows everything hed know if his own workers were elves or gnomes right????

 

[wiccanpony]

who is that, moving in the shadows??

Originally posted by Mosch

Orginal gepostet von steelcult
Neither actually, cause the MAIN MAN fragged em ALL!!!

A, the paramilitary X-Mas special. Exactly the same thing I thought of while reading this thread


Talking about lawn ornaments, don\'t you just HATE those that make sounds? My beloved parents bought a hellish plastic duck that runs on a single battery and emits a fearsome high-pitched noise that not only makes your ears bleed but also makes every single bird around your garden explode if you get anywhere near it, for example if you walk on the same continent.
Ask my girlfriend sakura if I like that wonderful thing, I have to go to anger management class. OR take my medication. Or do anything to get my blood pressure down.

tee hee.....a covert action at midnight with a baseball bat works wonders.....just be sure to be shock when the parents break the news about vandals and offer to get them a new quiet flamingo to replace it. lollollol

 

[praetorian0_1]

...carefull with those gazing balls, you look in and you never know who\'s looking back- sorry couldn\'t resist the LOR pun. Oh wait-its santa of course.
Truth be told i live in a trailer park and have never laid eyes on one till now- CMON, fun and educational too.
Most UK people i\'ve talked to get a big kick out of houses that you can pick up and move. Have any of you seen our wonderful show \"trailerPark Boys\" that we have up here in the great white north? Too funny for words(one of the few Canadian shows i\'d ever recomend) and painfully true- i know so many guys like the dudes on this showlol I basically look like that guy bubbles with better glasses.

 

[Marion]

mmm...

I\'ve not read all your posts, but just wanted to say that in France, we call santa\'s elves: \"les lutins du père Noël\"...
Yes, \"lutin\"... Don\'t know the exact word in English...But they are small, nice and cute little persons...
Hope it makes sense.

 

[Helga]

To share another cultures folklore

Here in Germany Santa Claus - der Weihnachtsmann aka der Nikolaus - doesn\'t have any elf/gnome little helpers. Only by the assimilation of english christmas customs into our culture over the last decades do I even know what You are talking about.
The traditional assistants of the Weihnachtsmann in Germany are the Christkindl and the Krampus.
The Christkindl is an angel looking like an about 8 year old blonde (ABSOLUTE MUST) girlchild in a white nightgown-like shift with wings. There is no special task assigned to her, as far as I know.
The Krampus is a wildhaired, heavily bearded giant in rags with a couple of switches and a roughly woven sack. His task is to separate the good from the bad children, and while the good children get presents, to whip the bad children and put them into his sack.

Hired Nikolauses accompanied by Krampuses, visiting the homes of loving parents are every year sending countless children to panicked crying fits and cause emotional scars on the children of beforementioned wellmeaning hiring parents that may take those children years to recover from.

I\'d rather not know what conclusion a cultural behaviorist (?) would draw of this.

To complete my rant: the described elves/gnomes like creatures are of course known to german folklore. They are called Wichtel, they wear preferably green trousers and jackets and red hoselike caps and live beneath the roots of oak trees or under mushrooms. They have no connection to Santa Claus at all.

Phew, I rest my case.

 

[ZeCorto]

You\'re right, \'lutin\' is the right species. It\'s a diminutive elf, all nice and kind and polite. The google translation is imp, which is very inaccurate since they are not at all mischievious but indeed some sort of dream-child for unimaginative parents. They look like elves but stand around 3 feet tall.
Actually, if you know Noddy (oui-oui) from the children books, that\'s the kind of guy.

And they are also great barbecued with chili sauce

 

[Mosch]

Orginal gepostet von Helga
The traditional assistants of the Weihnachtsmann in Germany are the Chistkindl and the Krampus.

I have never heard of the Krampus (but, from your description, I like his style) ??? He sounds an awful lot like Knecht Ruprecht however.

 

[Helga]

I have never heard of the Krampus .....He sounds an awful lot like Knecht Ruprecht however. [/quote]

Right You are, they are the same: Krampus aka Knecht Ruprecht aka Kramperl

 

[dauber22]

Originally posted by Helga
The Christkindl is an angel looking like an about 8 year old blonde (ABSOLUTE MUST) girlchild in a white nightgown-like shift with wings. There is no special task assigned to her, as far as I know.

I\'m glad you said \"girlchild\" or else I\'d think that perhaps old Weihnachtsmann there was somewhat akin to US\'s semi-mythical being - Michael Jackson lol lol

Happy Leon Eve everybody!