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[cookster]

Hey how goes it?

Did anyone read the nmm rant in the most recent white dwarf? It talked about how nmm was wrong because of the medium (models). I suggest you read it but to sum it up a model exists a canvas painting doesn\'t in the sense that it is a certain point in time that doesn\'t change. Stuff changes around a model. For example the way light hits it. NMM, according to the author, only looks good from a certain angle and when you turn the model it looks akwarkd. ?

Also a score is 5 is tabletop quality right? How does that techniqually apply to scultping. I\'d say that something to be fielded on the table that i sculpted is really good. Just a thought

 

[Legacy Account]

White Dwarf is a worthless rag these days.

There was a letter in there recently that had someone asking for the painting masterclass jobbies to be brought back. The reply basically said that it was too much time and effort to do them.

Too much time and effort to paint some of their own miniatures.

And they talk bollocks. That arguement about NMM being wrong from different angles is bullshit. If that were the case, there would be no point in applying ANY highlights to a model. Utter cop-out!

Tossers.

 

[cookster]

Ironically they have a master class painting in the same issue. About a month ago i decided not to renknew the subscription i got for my birthday. However i do like reading what they have to say and looking at some sweet models. So i figure i c an flip threw it at my store:idea:

 

[orctrader]

Don\'t buy it often. Started painting around Jan of this year and I\'ve only bought two copies. As I don\'t game there was very little of interest for me. Some of the painted miniatures were good.

Based on the above perhaps I am totally wrong and just reading incorrect information but I regard it as a house mag for gaming, enthusiasts with a smattering of stuff for painters. (?)

From what you describe the article is just someone\'s opinion. Personally I am painting strictly metallics but will attempt NMM at some point. Both techniques seem equally valid IMHO.

 

[Legacy Account]

White Dwarf is supposed to be about the GW \'hobby\' (a putrid expression...). Painting miniatures is one of the main parts to it! They used to give lots of space over to this aspect, but it now seems too much trouble for them.

The only miniatures they want to show are ones they haven\'t had to pay to be painted - Golden Demon winners and stuff people send in. Pure laziness (and tight-fistedness) and it means they are becoming reliant on the goodwill of others.

They are supposed to be market leaders. They should be staying ahead of the pack and trying to innovate in all aspects of their market. Seems to me that they\'re sticking their fingers in their ears and singing \'LALALALALALALALALA!!\" very loudly!

They may start to realise some time soon that astoundingly painted miniatures sell their stuff!!!! Rackham and PP know this and are reaping the rewards.

 

[tzor]

I am not normally a fan of NMM, but in this case I have to disagree with White Dwarf in the strongest terms. Universal perspective is an illusion.

There are people who paint three dimensional perspectives typically on roadways that only make sense when looked at one single direction. NMM isn\'t remotely like those paintings.

Metalic paints do not in and of themselves offer a better alternative. Do you really want the effects of indoor multiple lighting sources, incomplete terrain effects and so on and so forth reflecting on your mini?

Do you really view a mini from all angles anyway and how bad is the effect when not viewing it from the proper angle. In general you don\'t look at a mini from below, and mostly from above. Given that and the general nature of light sources in general the assumption of NMM most often applies reasonably well for most viewing normal viewing angles.

 

[Ritual]

Every other highlight on a mini is fixed in it\'s position and doesn\'t change when you rotate the mini, so why should highlights on metallic surfaces do that? ??? Even with metallic paints you have to put highlights in appropriate places to make it look good. That whole argument is just plain stupid!

I don\'t get it why some people who favour \'real\' metallics need to constantly put down NMM.

 

[Beelzebrush]

Due to the size of a mini an assumed painted light source (for highlights) - for arguments sake at top left of the mini - isn\'t going to look wrong in any normal circumstances with NMM, unless there is a concentrated strong natural/artificial lightsource form another direction adding specular highlights that contradict with what is painted. The whole point is that you are trying to force nature.... it\'s a trick of the eye or tromp l\'oeil or whatever you want to call it.

That probably makes no sense at all but it is late here and the bottle of Glenturret I had for my birthday is now running on vapours.

 

[dobby 53]

White dwarf saying that NMM are bad doesnt mean crap. The authors of white dwarf cant even paint that well (i know cuz i have met and seen their stuff) and almost all the golden demon winners from baltimore won with NMM... so how do they think that the nmm only looks good from one direction... obviously it looks good from a few

 

[tidoco2222]

I\'ve bought and kept every White Dwarf since issue 7 and it is very interesting to see how they change their stance over time. As Spacemunkie says today\'s magazine is realy not worth the paper it is printed on and the only reason I get it is because now it is more a tradition. I primarily paint with metalics because that is what I am more comfortable with. To say that NMM is wrong is just plain bollocks, you\'ve only got to look at some of the fantastic NMM work done by members here and also look at any number of magazines and books that are not biased either way.
But hey there was a time when WD would advertise andsupport other mini manufacturers and not just shout out \"hey look at us we are the only miniature/games company in the world that matters\".
Thankfully Rackham\'s/PP and the like are giving them a run for their money and I think they are now just burying their heads in the sand.
A very good position for other firms to come and give them a good ol\' kick up the arse.