Shawn R. L.
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Makes the point even better. I have known and just a week ago had firsthand experience with the victms of DUI.
Double standard is aggrivating!!
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Makes the point even better. I have known and just a week ago had firsthand experience with the victms of DUI.
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Bang on chap!
I just can\'t believe that anyone smoking the odd twifter would even be newsworthy these days...
mattsterbenz
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While I don\'t care so much what Phelps does on his own time, I do see drugs as disgusting and pathetic. And it doesn\'t surprise me that the media would focus so much attention on this when every other story is about Obama.
I also don\'t really understand how there can be a double standard when one of the substances is illegal and the other is not.
/two cents over
-Matt
I also don\'t really understand how there can be a double standard when one of the substances is illegal and the other is not.
/two cents over
-Matt
laurence
Brushlover
Bonging on.
Heheh.. Twifter! I\'ve never heard it referred to as that before. Funny! Personally, I don\'t mind one bit if this Phelps guy (never heard of him before) takes a hit on a bong. My only thang would be to recommend he rolls spliffs from now on. They\'re smoother and more social. I quit bongs the day a cockroach jumped out of the bong and ran across my face. Filthy things! I\'ve only recently started occasionally smoking pot again. About one joint a day. Usually at night time. It\'s helped me quit drinking, which was gradually becoming a problem.
I do agree with Shawn about the whole double standards issue. Where do you draw the line? People should have the freedom to do what ever they want to their bodies. Just as long as it doesn\'t hurt others. I\'d like to be able to go completely straight but... This probably sounds like an excuse. My mothers alcoholism and the fact that she was in and out of rehab centers when I was a kid for her drinking combined with other issues that were present in my teens caused me to turn to weed and booze as an escape from the reality. I have two brothers and we all suffer from alcohol and drug related problems. Actually, alcohol would have to be the biggest problem that my mum and brothers (including me) have had to deal with. Weed is a good thing (for me anyway). \'Cause as I said, it\'s got me off the booze, reduced my cigarette smoking habit and also made me more aware of my body. In that after a smoke I stretch my body and sometimes get the urge to do physical exercise.
Heheh.. Twifter! I\'ve never heard it referred to as that before. Funny! Personally, I don\'t mind one bit if this Phelps guy (never heard of him before) takes a hit on a bong. My only thang would be to recommend he rolls spliffs from now on. They\'re smoother and more social. I quit bongs the day a cockroach jumped out of the bong and ran across my face. Filthy things! I\'ve only recently started occasionally smoking pot again. About one joint a day. Usually at night time. It\'s helped me quit drinking, which was gradually becoming a problem.
I do agree with Shawn about the whole double standards issue. Where do you draw the line? People should have the freedom to do what ever they want to their bodies. Just as long as it doesn\'t hurt others. I\'d like to be able to go completely straight but... This probably sounds like an excuse. My mothers alcoholism and the fact that she was in and out of rehab centers when I was a kid for her drinking combined with other issues that were present in my teens caused me to turn to weed and booze as an escape from the reality. I have two brothers and we all suffer from alcohol and drug related problems. Actually, alcohol would have to be the biggest problem that my mum and brothers (including me) have had to deal with. Weed is a good thing (for me anyway). \'Cause as I said, it\'s got me off the booze, reduced my cigarette smoking habit and also made me more aware of my body. In that after a smoke I stretch my body and sometimes get the urge to do physical exercise.
Shawn R. L.
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Oh..............you noticed that too. It\'s pathetic how much fawning has been going on.
------------quote of Chris Matthews (big news dude) \"listening to Barak Obama sends a shiver down my leg.\" ???lol
ScottRadom
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It\'s not bullshit or an arguement. Why do people care that Phelps smoked pot? Because people were made/decided to care that he was a clean image dude, not smoking pot. Would people be up in arms if they found out Obama was smoking weed? Of course, because it goes against the publics expectations of him. Same with Phelps. I\'m not saying it\'s okay, I\'m not saying it\'s not Ok, but if Phelps made millions selling an image of a clean living persona (despite the under age DUI that got swept under the rug) then it\'s gonna be a big deal for the dude. If his agents had sold an image of an occasional pot smoker then it wouldn\'t be the big deal it is.
Let me chip in my 5-cents, I do hope you\'ll read the entire post....
first of all, I\'m from Holland, the only country brave enough to sort of legalize soft drugs (though the government is trying to undo those policies)
first of all, there\'s no stranger system than the dutch system:
- anyone over 18 can buy Marijuana (hash or weed) at a coffeeshop.
- anyone over 18 is permitted to carry <5 grams of Marijuana
- Marijuana may only be smoked in your own home, or in a coffeeshop, not in a dedicated smoking area in a pub or something
- coffeeshops are NOT allowed to buy Marijuana
- Anyone over 18 may cultivate up to 5 Cannabis plants for his or her own use
- no one, apart from coffeeshops is allowed to sell Marijuana
- since July 1st 2008, you are no longer allowed to smoke tabaco in a coffeeshop (unless they have a dedicated smoking area), a pure joint, just Marijuana, no tabaco, is just fine
- Police officers MAY NOT damage your property, even if that means dismembering a joint which you are smoking inside a coffeeshop, even if they suspect it contains tabakc
so, basically, anyone over 18 may buy Marijuana, no one may cultivate enough cannabis to sell commercially, so the coffeshops have nowhere to buy their stuff....???
Alcohol, and even caffeine, are much more addictive drugs than Marijuana is. Plus, alcohol and caffeine are physically addictive (you go into bodily withdrawal, shaking, vomiting, if you quit cold turkey), Marijuana is only mentally addictive (you only want the drug, no bodily withdrawal)
Alcohol causes much more problems than Marijuana
The UK has twice as many soft drug related problems (per 1000 people) than Holland has, and about three times as many hard drugs related problems (per 1000 people) and yes, also about twice as many hard drug addicts too.
somehow, legalizing soft drugs has made the next step onto illegal hard drug that much harder.
and yes, almost any dutch person between 17 and 30 has tried marijuana (i started at 16 myself, coffeeshops never made a problem about my age back than) but most quit after 2 years or so, when they grow up.
it is my personal opinion that all softdrug should be legelised, and growing canabis should be made a legal profession (prostitution.....) paying taxes and everything. the government could even set rules, and take samples to verify quality.
this would greatly decrease the criminality rate.
on more thing, the dutch government has recently decided that hallucinating mushrooms are illegal, and that coffeeshops are no longer allowed within 500 meters of a school, Amsterdam has declared (the day after those decisions were made public) not to enforce those rules, because they would cause more problems than they would solve....lol
Oh, and a couple of border town have forcibly closed several coffeeshops because of drug tourism from across the border, several neighboring towns have protested and even sued those town... claiming that closure would only aggravate the problem.
first of all, I\'m from Holland, the only country brave enough to sort of legalize soft drugs (though the government is trying to undo those policies)
first of all, there\'s no stranger system than the dutch system:
- anyone over 18 can buy Marijuana (hash or weed) at a coffeeshop.
- anyone over 18 is permitted to carry <5 grams of Marijuana
- Marijuana may only be smoked in your own home, or in a coffeeshop, not in a dedicated smoking area in a pub or something
- coffeeshops are NOT allowed to buy Marijuana
- Anyone over 18 may cultivate up to 5 Cannabis plants for his or her own use
- no one, apart from coffeeshops is allowed to sell Marijuana
- since July 1st 2008, you are no longer allowed to smoke tabaco in a coffeeshop (unless they have a dedicated smoking area), a pure joint, just Marijuana, no tabaco, is just fine
- Police officers MAY NOT damage your property, even if that means dismembering a joint which you are smoking inside a coffeeshop, even if they suspect it contains tabakc
so, basically, anyone over 18 may buy Marijuana, no one may cultivate enough cannabis to sell commercially, so the coffeshops have nowhere to buy their stuff....???
Alcohol, and even caffeine, are much more addictive drugs than Marijuana is. Plus, alcohol and caffeine are physically addictive (you go into bodily withdrawal, shaking, vomiting, if you quit cold turkey), Marijuana is only mentally addictive (you only want the drug, no bodily withdrawal)
Alcohol causes much more problems than Marijuana
The UK has twice as many soft drug related problems (per 1000 people) than Holland has, and about three times as many hard drugs related problems (per 1000 people) and yes, also about twice as many hard drug addicts too.
somehow, legalizing soft drugs has made the next step onto illegal hard drug that much harder.
and yes, almost any dutch person between 17 and 30 has tried marijuana (i started at 16 myself, coffeeshops never made a problem about my age back than) but most quit after 2 years or so, when they grow up.
it is my personal opinion that all softdrug should be legelised, and growing canabis should be made a legal profession (prostitution
.....) paying taxes and everything. the government could even set rules, and take samples to verify quality.this would greatly decrease the criminality rate.
on more thing, the dutch government has recently decided that hallucinating mushrooms are illegal, and that coffeeshops are no longer allowed within 500 meters of a school, Amsterdam has declared (the day after those decisions were made public) not to enforce those rules, because they would cause more problems than they would solve....lol
Oh, and a couple of border town have forcibly closed several coffeeshops because of drug tourism from across the border, several neighboring towns have protested and even sued those town... claiming that closure would only aggravate the problem.
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That\'s my point. It\'s not a big deal.
The only people who might be affected negatively in any way are his corporate sponsors (and who cares about them??!) and Phelps himself. He\'ll pay with the cash he won\'t have in his pocket. End of story.
People should be more worried about this sort of irrelevant shit appearing in the (tabloid) media. Wouldn\'t surprise me if he was set up...
mattsterbenz
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All hail the new emperor!Originally posted by Shawn R. L.
Oh..............you noticed that too. It\'s pathetic how much fawning has been going on.
------------quote of Chris Matthews (big news dude) \"listening to Barak Obama sends a shiver down my leg.\" ???lol
lol
-Matt
ScottRadom
Shogun of Saskatchewan
If it wasn\'t a big deal we wouldn\'t be talking about it. You and I don\'t care about Phelps but enough people do to make this news. Most all tabloid media doesn\'t really matter. I\'m not related to Britney Spears but that doesn\'t keep her meltdown from being big news.
