Double Twist Barbed Wire

mickc22

Granddad!
how much of a WIP this will be I\'m not sure, just wanted to share

barbedwire1.jpg


A bit of a closer look
barbedwire2.jpg

the wire underneath is the starting point

this is the real thing
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freakinacage

Well-known member
very effective. have been planning to do it myself some time but i haven\'t pulled my finger out. how did you get the wire to twist uniformly? every time i do it, it\'s really tight at one end and loose at the other
 

mickc22

Granddad!
I used a small hand drill, with a small hook in it. You need to keep the tension in the wire while you wind it up, otherwise it will do that

I knew I should have taken pics while I was doing it :D
 

mickc22

Granddad!
here\'s a close up, from the original pic, sorry its a bit fuzzy but it was just a quick handheld snap, no tripod
barbedwire3.jpg
 

mickc22

Granddad!
Originally posted by freakinacage
what was the other end anchored to?

Oh, sorry, a 4\" nail
I drilled a hole in my worktop so it was a nice snug fit. I looped the end of the wire over the nail, then wound it up with the drill
 

QuietiManes

New member
Why do people seem to want to strip wire so often? Just seems like a whole lot of extra work.

You can get metal wires with no plastic coatings (usually steel or galvanized metal, I\'d avoid the brass, copper and colour covered varieties) for super cheap at the craft stores and craft sections of larger stores (usually in the jewellery making and floral sections). It\'s about $2-3 for a little spool that has a huge length of wire, hundreds of feet, at Michaels and Walmart, both in the floral sections. At the hardware/home stores or in that section of the larger Walmart, Sears, etc type places. A lot of the sizes typically available at the auto/home/hardware stores is too large for this, at least around here, the smallest gauge is about 18. It\'s about $4-6 for a lengthy roll, several meters, at Home Depot and Rona.

I\'d think that the wires above are about 24 to 26 gauge, anything from 20-30 gauge would probably work for the 28-32mm scale.
 
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Shadzar

Guest
Originally posted by QuietiManes
Why do people seem to want to strip wire so often? Just seems like a whole lot of extra work.

??? Because you have the time and not the money?

Why do people always want to throw money at something that could be done with a little bit of effort and work for no money?

Hell why, even make barbed wire, why not just buy the stuff from Forgeworld.

I wish people would stop worshipping money, and try doing things for themselves.

I have many bad cat5 cables and EIDE cables, etc. Why buy wire when I can use what I have rather than throw away perfectly good wire just to buy some that I don\'t have to remove the sheathing of.

Not to mention that wild hair up your butt making you awake at 2am and not wanting to go to the store, but make something and just look for things around the house to work with.

Seems that is an odd thing said by a few people around here lately. Spend more money for this or that, as the answer for anything. ???

I like this and was trying to make some razor wire myself, and still wondering how you did it double braided wire? Are you twisting both around the main wire at the same time in the same direction or what?

All I ever got was two ends from a single coil for bards. :(
 

mickc22

Granddad!
Originally posted by airhead
what wire? Looks like maybe stripped Cat 5 wire?

it\'s 32 swg nickel chrome. I bought a 50g roll ages ago for my hot wire cutter, it was less than £10 if I remember
from here
www.wires.co.uk
 

mickc22

Granddad!
Originally posted by Shadzar
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I like this and was trying to make some razor wire myself, and still wondering how you did it double braided wire? Are you twisting both around the main wire at the same time in the same direction or what?

All I ever got was two ends from a single coil for bards. :(

I\'m wrapping two wires at the same time, just held together not braided
I\'m working on some pics
 
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Shadzar

Guest
So you are not braiding the barbs at all?

Maybe that\'s what my problem with it is then, trying to braid the barbs rather than just twist them around.
 

mickc22

Granddad!
no, no braiding

I think it works out at one and a half turns/winds for each barb

when I\'m feeling a bit better I\'ll sort out some pics (maybe a vid)
 

mickc22

Granddad!
I\'m writing an article for this so for now here\'s a pic of the general set-up

barbedwiresetup.jpg

I have 2 nails pushed into pre-drilled holes, 500mm apart. This shows the pre-twisted wire stretched tightly between them, with a few barbs started at the left hand end near the roll of wire

here\'s a close-up if you don\'t want to scroll back up to the top
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mickc22

Granddad!
Article \"how to make Double Twist barbed wire\" is done, just awaiting approval

its in the General Misc section

Bit of mucking around though, I prefer to use Firefox, but it wouldn\'t copy and paste, I had to use IE, then that started playing up when i was inserting the pics, anyway, got there in the end
 

mickc22

Granddad!
Hi Mike
I tried putting a pagebreak in just before step 3, but it didn\'t work
I\'ll try again see if it works
 

Einion

New member
Hi Mick, sorry to come in on this late but only just saw the thread. I think you might be missing one of the simple tricks from the established method for making miniature barbed wire, to do with wrapping the barbs - are you doing them individually?

This is for a slightly different type of wire but you can do the barbs in one long run, which loops over and under. Then you clip off the hoops to leave the barbed ends.

I knew I\'d seen a pic of this basic thing recently and it shows what I mean much better than words:

barbed_wire3.jpg


From the Reaper forums.

One thing I like to make sure to do is to clip off the wire at a sharp angle, instead of at 90°. It\'s only a small thing (literally!) but I think it makes a big difference if you view the wire closely.

Einion

P.S. One last old tip from Military Modelling magazine is if you use fuse wire to just heat with a candle flame and the tinning \'solders\' each barb in place, so no need to mess with any glue.
 
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