Dumb comment of the week. *warning rant*
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Clarification needed..
I read the comment and it was not inflammatory or particularly insulting. It was unconstructive and ill-informed however, but no worse than many other comments I have read. There was nothing in it I could see that would catch a moderator\'s attention.
It would appear that mysterious forces have been at work however, because the person in question registered in July 03, but his profile states that he was last active in 2001. Also, no posts are now attributed to him.
I suspect he might have been misbehaving elsewhere and has either been Assimilated by Borg or Chopped by Chern
Originally by supervike
comment removal?
Is it possible for someone to remove their own comment?
A \'commentectomy\' is a serious operation and should not be undertaken lightly. Probably best to consult the experts....
I read the comment and it was not inflammatory or particularly insulting. It was unconstructive and ill-informed however, but no worse than many other comments I have read. There was nothing in it I could see that would catch a moderator\'s attention.
It would appear that mysterious forces have been at work however, because the person in question registered in July 03, but his profile states that he was last active in 2001. Also, no posts are now attributed to him.
I suspect he might have been misbehaving elsewhere and has either been Assimilated by Borg or Chopped by Chern
Originally by supervike
comment removal?
Is it possible for someone to remove their own comment?
A \'commentectomy\' is a serious operation and should not be undertaken lightly. Probably best to consult the experts....
vincegamer
Active member
Klan
It does look sort of Klannish just in the way a tiny mustache makes one look like a certain 20th century dictator rather than just a guy in an old fashioned style, or using a linguistic metaphore, how an Aryan puts you in mind of a tall blonde fascist rather than a devout 3rd century Christian who follows the preaching of bishop Arius (whence the term originates) later declared heretic.
Also, I was under the impression - though with no firsthand knowledge - that high members of the Klan wore red or black robes, which is why I painted my \"grand dragon\" in black robes.
I\'ll post him some day for a laugh.
It does look sort of Klannish just in the way a tiny mustache makes one look like a certain 20th century dictator rather than just a guy in an old fashioned style, or using a linguistic metaphore, how an Aryan puts you in mind of a tall blonde fascist rather than a devout 3rd century Christian who follows the preaching of bishop Arius (whence the term originates) later declared heretic.
Also, I was under the impression - though with no firsthand knowledge - that high members of the Klan wore red or black robes, which is why I painted my \"grand dragon\" in black robes.
I\'ll post him some day for a laugh.
Point dance? Is that like the one where they prance around wearing leather shorts and then slap each other in the face?
But as for all the evil guys discussion look at all of the 40k fluff. The Steel Legion are basically WW2 Germans, the Valhalans are WW2 Russians, lead by what can only be described as a psychic vampire and these are the \"good guys\". Killer robots, ravening hords of insects, demons and their followers, sadistic space elves, bioengenered humans bred and trained to kill, and more and more they\'re selling this to children? Don\'t get me wrong I\'m no prude and my son has certainly seen his share of gratuitous violence. But it would be nice if the game had at least one race or group that weren\'t psychotic murderers.
But as for all the evil guys discussion look at all of the 40k fluff. The Steel Legion are basically WW2 Germans, the Valhalans are WW2 Russians, lead by what can only be described as a psychic vampire and these are the \"good guys\". Killer robots, ravening hords of insects, demons and their followers, sadistic space elves, bioengenered humans bred and trained to kill, and more and more they\'re selling this to children? Don\'t get me wrong I\'m no prude and my son has certainly seen his share of gratuitous violence. But it would be nice if the game had at least one race or group that weren\'t psychotic murderers.
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Big Mean Elf
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Don`t let FOOLS bug you my man...
I missed the comment to,it has been cleaned up...good,just remember that some kids here are still leanring shit,hell some of these lil \"Hip\" shits don`t belive hitler and the shit he did was real...so have`n a brat that means jack & shit to this place,say`n your a bigeot or what ever the lil fhuck posted should just be luaghed off,me thinks,even!
Come back and talk when you have something to say you lil basterds!
:]
Peace!
I missed the comment to,it has been cleaned up...good,just remember that some kids here are still leanring shit,hell some of these lil \"Hip\" shits don`t belive hitler and the shit he did was real...so have`n a brat that means jack & shit to this place,say`n your a bigeot or what ever the lil fhuck posted should just be luaghed off,me thinks,even!
Come back and talk when you have something to say you lil basterds!
:]Peace!
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Big Mean Elf
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Them lil FROGS
The Tua,the happy lil guys that don`t even want to engage in HtoH are the only REAL good guys in the damn thing....as the Eldar have gotten a lil mean`r then they used to be...
...all we get is happy lil frog guys fer the good guys.
:]:innocent::wow:
Peace!
The Tua,the happy lil guys that don`t even want to engage in HtoH are the only REAL good guys in the damn thing....as the Eldar have gotten a lil mean`r then they used to be...
...all we get is happy lil frog guys fer the good guys.
:]:innocent::wow:
Peace!
We have one of these people running around. He keeps explaining to everyone why the holocaust couldn\'t be real. I\'ve been to Aushwitz meself, it looks real enough when you\'re standing there, waiting to get a shower.
Anyway, there will always be folk that don\'t actually think about the stuff they write as comments. It\'s just how this world turns (sideways was it?)
Originally posted by Big Mean Elf
The Tua,the happy lil guys that don`t even want to engage in HtoH are the only REAL good guys in the damn thing....as the Eldar have gotten a lil mean`r then they used to be...
...all we get is happy lil frog guys fer the good guys.
:]:innocent::wow:
Peace!
The tau might be wight you could call the nicest race in WH40k but they still go walking around with big gund in their hands. What GW needs to make is an army of little bunnys that would defeat the oponent with their love, \" give me a big hug\".
Actually if you wanna see a game that is not has dark, just play WHFB with nice human who do nothing but defend their homeland. Or nice spiritual elfs. :innocent:
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Big Mean Elf
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We know,and they will grow up...
...yep...baby boy you know the deal,they will learn the real deal to one day,or end up in jail or fhuck`n dead as freid chicken,not much we can do,except be ready to talk to them when it counts,or if one of `em tries to do something stupid,like in an alley,be ready to knock the fhuck out of `em!
But as to history and real life,it is kinda fun,I mean the WWII stuff in only 60 years ago,and folks are already act`n stupid about it...like what we been talk`n bout recent like.
I find this very interest`n,as I`m do`n work on me future world fer a game I have been working on for the last 5 years,some folks say this and that would not be the way I have it,like folks forgeting much of the science we have,in a short time,like 50 years,then we have all these lil natzies groups try`n to do what they do,as real proff as to how stupid folk can be,by defualt...it is refreash`n and scary a lil bit,but as I`m evil as hell also,it is more entertain`n then anything.
I remember see`n the pictures my great uncle took of the gas chambers and mounds of the dead...plus I use my brain,so yeah the holocuast was as real as real gets...makes me wonder dow,how des lil shits can be sooooo blind to reality.
Peace!
:idea:
Originally posted by Tuubje
We have one of these people running around. He keeps explaining to everyone why the holocaust couldn\'t be real. I\'ve been to Aushwitz meself, it looks real enough when you\'re standing there, waiting to get a shower.
Anyway, there will always be folk that don\'t actually think about the stuff they write as comments. It\'s just how this world turns (sideways was it?)
...yep...baby boy you know the deal,they will learn the real deal to one day,or end up in jail or fhuck`n dead as freid chicken,not much we can do,except be ready to talk to them when it counts,or if one of `em tries to do something stupid,like in an alley,be ready to knock the fhuck out of `em!
But as to history and real life,it is kinda fun,I mean the WWII stuff in only 60 years ago,and folks are already act`n stupid about it...like what we been talk`n bout recent like.
I find this very interest`n,as I`m do`n work on me future world fer a game I have been working on for the last 5 years,some folks say this and that would not be the way I have it,like folks forgeting much of the science we have,in a short time,like 50 years,then we have all these lil natzies groups try`n to do what they do,as real proff as to how stupid folk can be,by defualt...it is refreash`n and scary a lil bit,but as I`m evil as hell also,it is more entertain`n then anything.
I remember see`n the pictures my great uncle took of the gas chambers and mounds of the dead...plus I use my brain,so yeah the holocuast was as real as real gets...makes me wonder dow,how des lil shits can be sooooo blind to reality.
Peace!
:idea:
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Sturmhalo
Guest
Yes, if you strip away all the \'cool\' stuff and nonsense from the 40k universe and look at it in a very sober manner, then it does appear to be a terribly horrific game world!
The supposed good guys, as in the Imperium, fighting for humanity are on a par with some of the worst regimes this world (of reality!) has seen. Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m not going all limp wristed and lefty, and starting to wring my cardigan! But it is interesting to look beyond all the flashy gubbins and see what\'s really there.
I\'m not too up to date with the current version of 40k events, but back in the days of Rogue Trader you had whole armies of Guardsmen being executed by the Ordo Malleus after fighting against demonic forces so as to keep the world of Chaos a secret. With the Imperial Guard again, commissars had the power to execute squad leaders in the field (and in the game) to stop their squads routing. As you can see, these poor guardsmen tended to get the shitty end of the stick.
It\'s a very dark game world where the forces fighting for humanity are so quick to kill and commit mass murder upon their own kind.
Mind you, the kiddies out there are probably too wowed by the massive guns and big shiny baubles to really care about the harsher side of 40k fluff. As for those of us of a more mature vintage, we just ignore the serious sh*t. Like historic gamers who don\'t like casualty figures as they remind them too much of the realities of warfare. After all, playing Waffen SS v Russian partisans on the Eastern Front is just a bit of escapism isn\'t it?!
The supposed good guys, as in the Imperium, fighting for humanity are on a par with some of the worst regimes this world (of reality!) has seen. Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m not going all limp wristed and lefty, and starting to wring my cardigan! But it is interesting to look beyond all the flashy gubbins and see what\'s really there.
I\'m not too up to date with the current version of 40k events, but back in the days of Rogue Trader you had whole armies of Guardsmen being executed by the Ordo Malleus after fighting against demonic forces so as to keep the world of Chaos a secret. With the Imperial Guard again, commissars had the power to execute squad leaders in the field (and in the game) to stop their squads routing. As you can see, these poor guardsmen tended to get the shitty end of the stick.
It\'s a very dark game world where the forces fighting for humanity are so quick to kill and commit mass murder upon their own kind.
Mind you, the kiddies out there are probably too wowed by the massive guns and big shiny baubles to really care about the harsher side of 40k fluff. As for those of us of a more mature vintage, we just ignore the serious sh*t. Like historic gamers who don\'t like casualty figures as they remind them too much of the realities of warfare. After all, playing Waffen SS v Russian partisans on the Eastern Front is just a bit of escapism isn\'t it?!
SturmHalo:
My local store manager is as reasonable a guy as you could wish to meet but I know that he has specifically refused to allow one 40K player to take part in an event because all his SM\'s had swastika\'s on the shoulder pads. Ditto the dumb ass who tried to blagg his way through the store with Imp Guard painted as Waffen SS.
All the older players in my local store are careful about how easy it is to slip into the derogative comments about other army types, the least offensive I can come up with is \"Tree Huggers\" for wood elves. (Once heard Slanneshi called \"Benders\" but not for long).
So back on the thread (almost) I can see how someone with a limited understanding of game systems & the world in general could come up with a comment relating the Chaos Cultist to the KKK. I just can\'t see how the comment got past the scrutineer. Must have been a busy day!
You are very right there my friend, and in a lot of the GW stores you will see signs which state that the games are intended for persons of 12 years or older.
My local store manager is as reasonable a guy as you could wish to meet but I know that he has specifically refused to allow one 40K player to take part in an event because all his SM\'s had swastika\'s on the shoulder pads. Ditto the dumb ass who tried to blagg his way through the store with Imp Guard painted as Waffen SS.
All the older players in my local store are careful about how easy it is to slip into the derogative comments about other army types, the least offensive I can come up with is \"Tree Huggers\" for wood elves. (Once heard Slanneshi called \"Benders\" but not for long).
So back on the thread (almost) I can see how someone with a limited understanding of game systems & the world in general could come up with a comment relating the Chaos Cultist to the KKK. I just can\'t see how the comment got past the scrutineer. Must have been a busy day!
I guess the scrutineer is only human (he is, isn\'t he?) so he\'ll get tired too
Ow, and talking about ignorance... when I finally have a kid, the \"never forget-rule\" goes before censorship. I hate censorship. If something is illegal, children are bound to want it. (I always wanted stuff I couldn\'t get :innocent
Ow, and talking about ignorance... when I finally have a kid, the \"never forget-rule\" goes before censorship. I hate censorship. If something is illegal, children are bound to want it. (I always wanted stuff I couldn\'t get :innocent
farseerlum
New member
hmm a miniatures game that doesn\'t have mass carnage?
i\'m having a hard time even imagining such a thing.
why would you need large armies? (apart from helping sales of course)
how would you win?
i can see plenty of room for ultra cool minis though.
i wonder if it can be done?
i\'m having a hard time even imagining such a thing.
why would you need large armies? (apart from helping sales of course)
how would you win?
i can see plenty of room for ultra cool minis though.
i wonder if it can be done?
Hummmm. I never saw that movie, but I kept earing people talk about it.Originally posted by Nomis
Originally posted by frenchkid
What GW needs to make is an army of little bunnys that would defeat the oponent with their love, \" give me a big hug\".
A bit like the bunny in Monty Python and the Holy Grail do you mean?
Has for making a non violent army I\'m sure that could be done, the only problem would be that it would never sell. Just imagine playing it \"My mickey mouse just gave you a big kiss, your teddy bear becomes friend with me\"
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Sturmhalo
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Were these Imperial Guard merely painted in the colours and camo used by the SS, or did the guy actually have SS runes and other specific insignia painted on his models?
That could be said to be \'wrong\' and possibly cause offense. Last thing you want is someone bringing blatant Nazi iconography to the game. However I do recall many years ago seeing space orks in WD sporting an insignia made up of a white disc bearing a black lightning flash that was obviously inspired by the SS runes. Not Nazi insignia, but the comparison was certainly intended (the orks were also wearing predominantly black uniforms and had a certain WWII heir about them due to the other colours used).
Just as a cerebral exercise. If the store manager had also been into historics and WWII, and was putting on a game in a store (not GW of course!), would there have been a problem with someone fielding a force of Waffen SS as part of that game? Many manufacturers produce German figures that are sold as SS, and as such they would be painted with the correct insignia for the period.
In a historic context I have no problem with the use of such insignia. Maybe the morals and ethics of representing such forces in a game are questionable, but that\'s something for the individual to decide upon. Much in the same way that some might question why someone is interested in gore films, swords, or militaria. Anyway, back on track. Whilst bringing blatant iconography to 40k (or any fictional game) is not something anyone wants to see, it is sometimes already there (in 40k) by inference, as in the case of the ork insignia.
This is getting far too intellectual for this time of day. Maybe I\'m just rambling. By the way, I\'m NOT saying that 40k purveys Nazi ideology to kids, or that GW is evil. I was just stripping away some of the baubles and bumpf and looking at what\'s beneath and seeing whether I should question anything I find.
As BME would say:
\'Peace\'
lol:innocent:Originally posted by Jericho
You could use the Carebear Stare, and keep knocking the opponents further and further back without really hurting them, until they just give up and go home! That\'d work
Bah, non-violence.... After the first \"stare\", I\'d take my railgun, shoot the bear in the face and make myself a nice pink fur-coat with hearts on it
You see violence everyday, but manage to control yourself. You need to let go, playing the game itself is pretty non-violence. It\'s the content that\'s violent. That\'s also why I play videogames, to let yourself go.
Even some of the \"cute\" games, like mario, have violence. Bowser took your woman and now you\'re going to his place and kick his ass
.\"Being violent\" in games is just my way of being a pacifist in real life.
