Einion, EricJ, etc., Please check out my latest pix.

WorkingStiff

New member
I have five new pix of my minis that just came online. I\'ve only been a member of CMON for just over a month, so I thought I\'d get my baptism of fire over with, and begin developing a thick skin to be a better painter. ;)

http://www.coolminiornot.com/browse/submitter/WorkingStiff


\"How can I follow my dream if you keep waking me up?\"
 
Well while I may not be Einion, or EricJ, I do hope that I fit into the ect. part. :D I voted on all of your mini\'s as I had not ran across any of them prior to this thread and left comments on a couple. I liked what I saw. A few things that stood out to me.

1.) I think that your LOTR minis are some of the better ones posted on this site. For some reason, either its the sculpts or a lot of people are getting started with these mini\'s they don\'t lend them selves to paint very well.

2.) The Tyranid, when I saw the initial thumbnail in your gallery did nothing for me, but when I clicked on it to vote, I was happily suprised to see the level of detail that you put into it. I think that it may be a little underscored as well.

Cheers, Drake :cool:
 

Grumb

used to be a Freak
WorkingStiff;

Some pretty good work there. I really liked the terrain piece. And your Eowyn was really nice as well. Voted on everything. Welcome to CMON and this madhouse we call the forums...

Cheers,
Grumb
 

Avelorn

Sven Jonsson
Nice work! The lotr minis look very good.

The pictures are however on the wee small side for me to give an in-depth comment. If you want one, just post a bit larger picture on the boards, and let me know..! :)
 

WorkingStiff

New member
Thanks for the feedback, guys:) I painted the LOTR minis almost 2 years ago. I think also they are my better work compared to my recent 40K minis. I was (Still am) stoked by the LOTR books/movies. Having major characters to paint made a difference also in my painting focus. The White Dwarf \"Master class\" articles helped me alot too.

My photography is getting a bit better. I have a good camera to work with, a Canon Powershot G5. 5 MB res, 3x optical. But darn if I can\'t find that sweet spot with the macro lens option.......

I like this CMON gallery and forum. It gives me a pretty good baseline to go by regarding the quality of my minis. Averaging a 7 rating in such a talented company of miniature painters makes me feel pretty good!
 

EricJ

Active member
okok, I\'m late I know!! :(

Here are my thoughts, and since you asked for it, I\'ll be as straightforward as possible, however since there is now so many minis in your gallery (3 more since this post I see!) I\'ll be general for now, if you want specific critiques on your most recent works, let me know!

I think for the most part these minis are scoring about right, 6.5 to 7.5 range. They are all very tidy (you show really nice brush control), good color selection, and what stands out most for me is that you have good ideas for little details that add interest and flair to your work (the dirt at the bottom of the lotr cloaks, the writing on the ultramarines armor, etc...) Lots of good stuff, and lots of potential, but there are also reasons why you seem to be stuck in this score/quality range.

First is your photo quality, still lacking to really show your minis at their best, so practice practice practice!

Second, your colors do seem in general to be fairly flat, without much depth in your shading or highlights. I expect some of this is due to your photography simply drowning out some of your work, but I believe it probably still needs work.

Third, your color selection is good but not great, it strikes me in general as very safe. You tend to go with muted tones all over, rather than really adding points of interest to the mini to give give the eye something to focuse on and to them a dynamic or flow. This one is hard to explain well without really getting too deep into it.

forth, your bases are a very...boring :(

Fifth, I metioned above your flair, and while it\'s there I feel you\'re not quite confortable with it yet. For example, I do really like the mud at the bottom of the robes, however it feel very uniform...your flair lacks flair so to speak. Adding a little unevenness and interest to it would add a lot and catch the eye.

Ok, so in my opinion you have a ton of skills you\'ve developed to work with here, you\'re painting is very clean, your brush control is excelent and you have great ideas, you\'re not far from taking it up to the next level. What I think you need to focus on is 1) your photography 2) your sense of lighting (ie where to add more shadows and highlights to give the illusion of depth) 3) Be bold! let your good ideas free, add eye catching accents and breath that life into your minis.

Errr, okok, I\'m done, skin thick enough yet :)

All told, I think you\'re doing the best possible thing to improve: asking questions and not being afraid of the answers, I think you\'ll be pushing up your scores before long.

-Eric
 

Einion

New member
Okay, got your rhino skin on? :D Seriously, you won\'t need it, your minis aren\'t at all terrible as you can gather from the comments above and your scores, which I\'m not surprised at since you obviously are really interested in improving.

First off I think you want to try to take larger piccies, or use a higher res if it\'s available on your camera so you can crop down and post larger; even if you think the larger pics will show more flaws (they probably will) it\'ll give a fairer appraisal of your work.

I\'ll give my major negative comment at the start so it\'s out of the way - if you want to do single \'hero\' figures you definitely do want to work on the bases a bit but I\'m not really up on bases for minis so that\'s all I can say really and there are lots of great examples here to emulate.

Overall your edges and details are sharp and well above average, ditto on your use of colour, some of it very nice IMO (more on this below).

Ultramarine grunts - these are a good example of Eric\'s comment about the colour being a little flat. There are a few different styles you can adopt to add interest to single-coloured subjects like this - edge wear, chipping, overhead lighting or a combo of these. If you like a clean appearance then overhead/zenithal lighting is arguably the best one but it takes the most effort if you do it full on.

Ultramarine Apothecary - similar comments to above, plus definitely want to consider adding a little dirt to the boots and lower edges of the leg armour. These 40K figures actually look like they are the earlier pieces, not the LOTR ones, so motivation/interest might be a major factor for your best work (or maybe you\'re just better at cloth than armour :D).

Ork Warboss - like this one generally, good work on the skin although I would aim for more obvious lighting from above, even without the complete overhead lighting package (this is a personal preference so feel free to ignore this and the following). Your metallics here, in common with your other figures, look basically single colour with black washes; I would suggest going for a more modelled appearance with the bright silver kept in reserve for the top edges and wear points - makes metallic metals a lot more interesting IMO; I\'ll be posting some painting experiments to my gallery soon which hopefully will show what I\'m talking about if I can get the lighting right.

Hive Tyrant - one of the better things in your gallery and underscored IMO (might be the base!). This sort of subject is a lot more difficult to paint well than you might realise and a lot of people struggle getting a decent effect. One thing about this that might be worth bearing in mind is using larger brushes for blending larger areas, the transitions on the claws look like they\'d be accomplished more smoothly if you used a 1 or a 2 instead of a 000.

Eowyn - I like this one too. Good colour on the fleshtones and the hair colour is nice, so good to not see yellow blonde hair on an otherwise realistic paintjob :D The highlighting on the clothing could do with a little more emphasis perhaps but I like it subtle myself. The major problem with this as I see it that nobody else seems to have picked up on is the weathering on the base of the skirt is a different colour from the ground under her - much better to use the same basic colour to tie the figure into its base.

Fellowship of the Ring - nice work on these. Good realistic colouring and generally well handled. Ditto with my comment above about the colour of the weathering on the hems in a few places. One thing you might like to try to help with the blending of the colour into the fabric colour is to mix the two colours together on the palette before glazing this carefully on, as the basis for the weathered effect; it\'s often easier to get a subtle transition, and a better finished effect, this way instead of trying to use just thinned applications of the earth colour only. Oh and I\'d add a bowstring to Legolas\'s bow, stretched sprue is often the best material for this so you can have it taught and it can be made in scale no problem. And if you can find any sand-coloured sprue you might not need to paint it!

You mention about being in the zone for painting Eowyn\'s skirt, have a look at my Your best paintwork requires... thread, might pick up some pointers on maintaining the best mindset but overall I think you just need to paint more so the good habits build up :)

Einion
 

WorkingStiff

New member
Einion & EricJ, thanks so much for the constructive and candid remarks. Very specific and encouraging, without pulling any punches. Eric, I thought it was very perceptive of you pointing out my \"safe\" attitude of painting. I\'ve been clinging to his level because I feel comfortable with it. Too comfortable in fact, to risk the possible frusration and heartbreak of failing trying to do a higher level of painting. But I guess I need to remember what my older brother said about how he learned to play the guitiar; \"You gotta play past the pain\".

I\'ve been thinking lately that I need to find a miniature \"that speaks to me\" if you will, that will motivate me to pull out all the stops to paint with the techniques you guys suggested.

I\'m gonna take all these suggestions to mind. I look forward in a month or two to show you my latest efforts.:)
 
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