European styled painting references?

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Kamui K

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Does anyone know of an online reference source on european techniques in mini painting?

I\'ve come across this guys works here on CMON under the name \"armees de ge\".

http://www.coolminiornot.com/index.php?id=28397&c=All&m=All&nm=none

And was really inspired by his style. The paintjobs seems chalky and quick pace. But when you pull out a bit, the job looks amazing. It gives the surface a certain rough texture were when in reality, it\'s smooth.

I\'ve only seen Europeans paint this way (none that I can remember their names though. And sorry if I\'m stereotyping).

Dirk Stiller (Brushguy) is similiar and he has a tuturial that explains he uses washes exclusively (I think).

But does anyone else know of any other references on how to get this look? This style isn\'t all on super smooth layers and it\'s a nice change.

My only worry is that of course, non of these tuturials are in English. So if there\'s info out there, any translators as well?
 
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TobiWan

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Seriously, I don\'t think it\'s a \'european\' style. There are actually only a few people in Europe who paint exclusively this style (and I think those who do come from France). I\'ve seen 2 or 3 people on this site using it (including armees de gehenne & gros bob).
I haven\'t tried this style myself yet because it\'s kinda too busy for my taste.
As you can see it consists of 5 differently colored areas which tend to blend in well and are used on every mini.
From the look of it you just cover the color area in a base color and then start drybrushing. Blending is achieved by drybrushing as well.

Have a nice day,
Tobi
 
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Kamui K

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I thought it might be drybrushing. But NMM with drybrushing?!

Is that really what it is?
Whatever it is, it\'s kick@ss!
 
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Chrispy

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http://www.demon-winners.fr.st/

-Has a lot of European pics, not only from French GD\'s, but German, UK, and Spain as well. They also have a couple of interveiws with top painters (including some of the favs around here)

One thing I know is from living in Germany and then here in the US is that cultural differences factor in. In Germany, I used to go to the market and get vegtables with my mom and it was very different from the mass produced, plastic wrapped world we have at every store around here. Paintings I remember seemed a lot more vividly painted and I think all this has something to do with industry around here.

Anyways, that might be the exact reason, but for sure in the 300 years Americans have been seperated geographically from Europe, there will be some cultural difference and art is heavily influenced by your place and culture.

Anyway, just some things to think about.. I also theorize that it\'s just in their DNA, in which case my Grandmother was French, so I have that going for me.. :D
 
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aon14

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FWIW, I think it\'s a pretty easy result to do/mimic.
I\'d start out by pre-shading.
Apply stains of the various colours using paints mixed with inks. Something quite translucent like colour party paints would be good for the paint. You could mix in acrylic medium or johnsons klear alternatively as CPP are a UK company.
If you used straigth inks it\'d mean several coats and you need to watch out for pooling more.
I\'d then damp brush up to white.

You can mix and match with a stain, damp brush, wash/stain over, damp brush and so on.

This damp brushing and staining technique is very fast but relies on the figure being well cleaned up and well undercoated. Any imperfections will jump out and poke you in the eye.
A big cheap brush like a humbrol 4 or so and a humbrol 2 are good. The cheap red handled ones.
 
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t_haye2

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I think a guy(girl?) called Silvousplay also paints in that style. I think it\'s a combination of washes over d white udercoat and drybrushing....
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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I\'ve just looked at the pictures in the original links and I\'m wondering if the painters are using tube acrylics (Windsor & Newton etc..) for the paint. It may be that the painters have used these over a white primer to give a very fine level of tonality, not just with washes.
This would seem to fit in with what I remember some painters discussion on another thread.
Also please look at elouchard and his website as he is a 2D artist and has referred to a similar technique.
 
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DaN00b

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if you link me to one tuturial
with this odd language i can translate it 4 you
have never found one by myself and i like the technic 2
 
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Kamui K

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Found another one!

This was the original painter I saw months ago that really turned my head on these crazy colors and designs.

Jeremie Dupuit - 2002 SLAYER SWORD WINNER

You can find his pics under the name \"jeremie:.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/index.php?id=23254&c=All&m=All&nm=none

It\'s just so beautiful. But alas, still no personal page or any tuturials on how to paint this way.
 
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aon14

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Originally posted by Kamui K
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so beautiful. But alas, still no personal page or any tuturials on how to paint this way.
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You don\'t like the method I suggested then?
 
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kittykat23uk

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I saw some of these pics before, very interesting technique, but a bit busy. I\'d also like to know how its done. it does look like more dry brushing than wet blending, but maybe theres some form of undepainting in there too???

Regards

Kat
 
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Kamui K

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Originally posted by aon14

You don\'t like the method I suggested then?
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It\'s a bit hard to follow. Pre-shading?
You mean like paint all in monochrome then apply washes or inks to give color. Then drybrush up to white?
 
DragonPaint

DragonPaint

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If you like some example of European miniatures take a look in my galleries
I have many pictures from Italian contests like Lucca Games and the Italian Golden Demon.
http://www.minitaly.com/~dp/pic/index.php?newlang=eng
 
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aon14

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Originally posted by Kamui K
Originally posted by aon14

You don\'t like the method I suggested then?
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It\'s a bit hard to follow. Pre-shading?
You mean like paint all in monochrome then apply washes or inks to give color. Then drybrush up to white?
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Rather than monochrome, a mix of black and umber or burnt umber works better.
Apply a damp brush of white over this.
The pre-shading method is one of the \"standard\" techniques used by modellers and presumably originates from the method painters use.
Although, with the likes of 1/35 tanks the shading is more subtle and hence the technique not quite so extreme.
It\'s outlined in one of the articles on this web site.
Google for more info as this is old news on newsgroups.
 
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