German Field Grey in GW Paints?
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In Chigh P.I.
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ive never done it, but mixing catachan green with codex grey is probably how i would go about it
No Such Agency
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Heh, while we're at it, I've been meaning to figure out how to mix up "Dunkelgelb"... I'm guessing some kind of green (Goblin Green?) with Desert Yellow. Since nobody can even agree on what colour Dunkelgelb WAS, they mostly go with a yellow oxide colour that I doubt is realistic (but is at least available by the bottle).
Jeez...
Jeez...
Donga
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Chardon Granite is the closest. I highlight it with German Field Grey. Chardon Granite is alot darker, if you use Cardon Granite highlighted with a pale grey (NOT Space wolf grey, too blue) or even a Dneb stone.
Why not just get VMC German Field Grey, it's a really useful colour (excellent for an instant 'stubble glaze' for flesh/faces).
Why not just get VMC German Field Grey, it's a really useful colour (excellent for an instant 'stubble glaze' for flesh/faces).
In Chigh P.I.
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Heh, while we're at it, I've been meaning to figure out how to mix up "Dunkelgelb"... I'm guessing some kind of green (Goblin Green?) with Desert Yellow. Since nobody can even agree on what colour Dunkelgelb WAS, they mostly go with a yellow oxide colour that I doubt is realistic (but is at least available by the bottle).
Jeez...
There were many variations of Dunkelgelb, depending on where & when a vehicle was painted. Different factories had different mixes, or it could have been field applied over the original Dunkelgrau. The variation can be quite extreme but some of the colours there look way off. I use VMC 'Middlestone' (similar to the first colour on the pic) but i will usually add a little brown, blue or grey to that.
Desert yellow & goblin green might need a touch of an earthy brown in there too
Einion
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A mix of grey and green is how I often recommend approaching Feldgrau if making the colour up from scratch, so Catachan Green + Codex Grey is along the same lines.
Basically if you have a green of the right type (or can mix it) and you mix a simple grey from white + black a blend of the two should work without too many problems.
Einion
Basically if you have a green of the right type (or can mix it) and you mix a simple grey from white + black a blend of the two should work without too many problems.
If it helps, was talking to Tony Greenland about this a couple of years ago and he said that the consensus had been reached that it had been replicated both too light and too yellow for many years. The original colour name for it was intended to be khaki - which gives a better idea of what the colour was like, clearly not that yellowish - but they decided for political reasons not to use a name in common use with the Brits.
Einion
Thanks for your replies.
Dunkelgelb means dark yellow in German.
There were many different shades so no one exact "correct" color.
This is because the paint was mixed in many places, many batches, applied over many different surfaces with different undercoats, etc., not to mention being weathered very differently in different places on different vehicles, different exposure to sun, to abrasion by sand, etc.
Add the slight change in color perception that a scale model has vs. the real thing and there's really no way to get it "right" or consistent even.
On another note, one that I know nothing about, I've noticed there is a greener and a grayer version of WWII German uniforms.
Are these meant to be two different colors? Can anyone advise?
Anyone know the right Vallejo colors? Thanks a bunch, folks, especially for the Catachan Green + Codex Grey.
Dunkelgelb means dark yellow in German.
There were many different shades so no one exact "correct" color.
This is because the paint was mixed in many places, many batches, applied over many different surfaces with different undercoats, etc., not to mention being weathered very differently in different places on different vehicles, different exposure to sun, to abrasion by sand, etc.
Add the slight change in color perception that a scale model has vs. the real thing and there's really no way to get it "right" or consistent even.
On another note, one that I know nothing about, I've noticed there is a greener and a grayer version of WWII German uniforms.
Are these meant to be two different colors? Can anyone advise?
Anyone know the right Vallejo colors? Thanks a bunch, folks, especially for the Catachan Green + Codex Grey.
Einion
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Revision to what I said above - I remembered it was Hilary Doyle I was speaking to about the colour of Dunkelgelb, not Tony Greenland.
Pick something that looks right to you, that'll be good enough.
Einion
Yes, but originally it wasn't actually a dark yellow at all (as most people would understand those words).
That's what standards are for - the variation from batch to batch may be smaller than is often assumed today. The change in the spec for the colour over time is a separate issue.
In some cases it might be, others could be down to fading or variation from batch to batch. Some of the greys you see will definitely not be Feldgrau and there are certainly greener and greyer versions of the colour seen on extant items.
See your comments about colour variability! That goes double for dyed fabric
Pick something that looks right to you, that'll be good enough.
Einion
