Giant for Oz GD2010

[Stewsayer]

Hi,

Here is a front on shot of my giant. He's in a cave hunting stunties with his pet wizard. The wizard is a bit out of it. He's trying not to burst completely into flames due to a miscast spell. He makes a pretty good lantern though.

I'm going to have a crack a OSL. The build is mostly finished. I'm considering the giant and base as done. The Dwarf may need his eyebrows tweaked to make him look at little more surprised/afraid and the handle of his little pick needs some GS work. The wizard is still very conceptual. I need him to look under pressure and like he's concentrating his whole being on the orb he's holding. So I'm going to leave him and the bottom of the cage for now and start painting the rest.

Your comments and crits are welcome be as brutal or nice as you feel the need to be.

Cheers

Stew

 

[flunkUtron]

haha i like that hes using a wizard as a flash light. cool idea keep me posted on that. some OSL will look SICK on this model. im picturing it now...


btw check out my WIP its a GD entry to. good luck on this

 

[Tagamoga]

Cool idea, but I suggest to work on the Giants left hand (that lies on the tree)... well it should look more like it lies on the tree... *smile*

I am wonder, how it will look like with paint.

Greetings, Taggi

 

[Phaty]

Heh, just working on similar project and thinking about a base ..... so it's pretty inspirating for me mate . I like the "pillar" - really nice idea. :good:
My suggestion is think out again the pose of Giant again please - just right now he's falling down (sorry to say that). His right arm should touch the pillar from oposite side - to keep him at current pose standing. With hand like that he will just slip down in next second .... you know - I have a feel that cage will overweight him now - because he have no single solid "anchor" to keep him in that pose. ....(might be the angle of picture ofc).
Anyhow ... nice work, keep going on it mate.

Phaty

 

[SkelettetS]

well to paint this up to gd id say you have a pretty massive paintjob ahead of you be sure to have the sculpting 100% satisfying before though, not fun to get such a job "trashed" just cos the pose is a little off.

anyway, looking forward to see some paint on this dude!

 

[cheelfy]

This is pretty cool project. Your gonna take lot of time painting this guy. I'm really looking forward to see it finished.

 

[Stewsayer]

Hi,

Thanks for the comments lady and gents.

@Taggi
The hand fits the pillar really well. At the moment though it has a wad of blutack under it to help keep the big guy upright. That pushes it away a little.

@Phaty
I've had issues with him falling and issues with an earlier base being finely balanced (I made this base that is much better no tips at all). The cage and wizard dont weigh much at all and the Giant is filled with milliput for extra weight and stronger joins. His right foot will be pinned to the base and his right hand to the pillar. The slight lean to the left gives him some sense of movement (I think). It is also exaggerated by the angle of the pic and the blu tack under the right hand.

@Cheefly
He's my major project at the moment and will probably be my only entry this year. I have a dwarf coming to aint for my daughter, a Razheem in progress and this guy between now and October. I expect painting him will suck up a couple of hundred hours at least.

I've changed the dwarf a bit after a suggestion on another forum. The lamp is lying at his feet now and his right arm is rotated down and backward. I also fiddled with his mouth (scraped off the original lip) to make it more of an O shape. I redid his eyebrows again to make them look more arched. Hopefully he looks more like "Oh *&^% why did I go and drop that lantern).

Cheers

Stew

 

[BPI]

I get the impression it's fixed now but just to throw the idea out there...

...his right hand is currently on the front of the pillar thumb down, I think it could be on the back of the pillar thumb up, so that he is using it to swing around on, carrying the momentum through the line of his arms to the lantern which is swuinging around to illuminate the dwarf to create a neat arc? This sort of movement http://www.coolminiornot.com/233600 (Cybersquig - Pirate Of Sartosa).

Cheers, B.

 

[Tee999]

I love the Idea. Using the wizard as a lantern is great!
I hope you plan on painting it with alot of lighting/shadow effects.
I can already see how it would look!!!

Can't wait to see what you do with it!

Tee

 

[Stewsayer]

Hi,

@BPI
I think I'm past the point where I can change the hand. I was originally all set to cut my poor giant kit to pieces before putting him back together. But I blu tacked him up and set him on the base with the cage tacked to his hand (as he is here) and it looked right so I put the saw away and tried to work out how i could make a new right hand for him. (all the kit ones are holding weapons). Once that was done the old I decided the old pillar wasn't cutting it and made a new one. i fitted it to his hand more or less and made it look like a photo I took in a local set of caves. I think rather than swinging around the pillar in a "Ah ha, I've got you now" way which it would be if his hand was on the other side. This is more a leaning round it to look in a "Huh, what was that?" way. Hopefully with the stunty's lantern on the floor and his new facial features this all works to suggest just that.

@Tee
I'm trying to evoke a cave type atmosphere. The main light source will be the cage. I migh pretend there is a source behind the scene so that i can pick out a few details on the backs of the models (this would be pretty faint resulting in dark grey/blue highlights on that side). The only other strong light source is the Dwarf's lantern which i have modelled with shutters over its lense so its probably going to have a slight glow between them and maybe a tiny pool of light. The rest will all be provided by the wizard. So lots of shadows and warm red/orange and maybe yellow tones to the lit areas.

 

[Stewsayer]

I've been awful quiet,

But here is my progress so far on the big guy. The light on his foot and parts of the left leg isn't quite right. His belly is very WIP. I haven't gotten the flesh base even yet it needs a few more coats and to cover up to the bindings on his arms and quite a bit more over his face and neck. The light I'll be adding as a series of glazes once the detail is done. I'm about to get stuck in to some work on the unlit area (probably his back).

This is a taste of what has been delaying me:

Anyway your C&C is most welcome. I took some pics against a black background and will try to post these tommorow.

Cheers

 

[Solun Decius]

That's a very cool conversion/diorama and by the looks of it will be an impressive paint job too. I'm in the middle of my first proper OSL project myself but I'm not going to be dishing out advice on that. Seems you know what you're doing already

I've got some thoughts on the photos though, which can be a bit more tricky than usual because it's a specific light effect you're pulling off here (I know it's just WIP, but nice photos help to see how the paint job is working out). In the first one you have a light source (real world) very close to where the wizard will be, exaggerating the OSL effect. It makes it a bit hard to see what are your nicely painted shadows and highlights and what are real world shadows. It also puts the "plasticy" shine on top of your highlights. This is hard to get rid of altogether but I would recommend trying to light it as much from all sides and with dispersed light rather than direct light to show the paint job itself better.
Also, as the diorama is meant to be in the dark, apart from what the wizard lights up, it would look more natural on a darker background. Blue is very "daylight". (And I see you have already addressed this).

I'm very impressed with what you've got going there already and looking very much forward too seeing it all come together.

 

[freakinacage]

you have my complete understanding, that jmd demon is fecking awesome. i really should finish mine...

 

[Stewsayer]

Hi Solum Decius. Thanks for the comments. Looking at your Dio inspired me to update this thread. This is my first OSL attempt also. If it comes out anywhere near as well as yours is so far I'll be stoked. I spent this afternoon banging together a new photo set up with black background. I still need to get a couple of more powerful lamps that I can place with diffusers to help get rid of those RL shadows. The glossy look of some areas (esp. the foot) is building up as I add more layers (I'm using very thin mixes and lots of layers). I'll cure that at the end with a coat of dullcoat.

I have been avoiding the black background so far as I plan on entering this in GD this year and it wont have a black background when it is being judged. The lighting efffects need to be apparrent regardless of background. Having said that I was blown away by how much difference the black background made. Still I wont be looking at it that way very often in attempts to make it look good without it.


@Freak isn't it just. He's going to be the centre piece of my fledgling WOC army but painted as well as I can. Who cares if a Daemon Prince is rubbish in game terms.

Cheers

 

[cheelfy]

Cool guy, I really like that little spider tatoo. Seeing all of you painting JMD demon makes me wanna paint one.

 

[Stewsayer]

Pics on black background.

 

[Stewsayer]

Hi,

I got some work done on the Giant's back. It may need to be dimmed a bit but I'll wait and see how it looks once I have the area between the Day and Night sides a bit more defined.

Here are some underexposed pics against a dark background to show the back and a better view of the column.

Cheers

 

[Cocanour]

Is it the camera angles because it looks like he is falling over unless there was a handle on the pillar to hold him up.

 

[Stewsayer]

He has a lean to the left yes. But the camera seems to exaggerate it quite a bit. Imagine he's heard something (the latern falling) and placed his hand on the pillar to steady himself as he takes a step around the corner. Giants do have issues with falling over also (see the longshanks rule). It doesn't look near as leany for real.

Cheers