Gloss from Dull Cote

[J2FcM]

I tried to bring this up in another Dull Cote thread, but it seems it got ignored due to the thread title.

Anyways...

It seems so0me practice pieces I sprayed with dull cote have picked up a light gloss finish... Did i use too much? too little? I think I used 2-3 sprays\\passes, at random time intervals.. 10 minutes after the first spray, then like hours\\maybe a day? after the 2nd. I felt the spray passes were quick and light.

 

[airhead]

common problem

solutions:

Shake more. Lots of flattening agent in there, takes a while to get it back into suspension.

Spray lighter coats, if you wet the mini, you probably put on too much. Spray once, lightly. Turn mini and repeat. I usually do this 4 times with 90 degree turns each time.

Cure for the minis that have the semi-gloss fininsh? Repeat as listed above but use very light coats.

Game minis? Use a coat or two of gloss first, then dullcoat. The gloss is harder and will hold up to play longer.

 

[J2FcM]

So this must be a very light spray... pass by the mini quickly, from moderate distance type thing? I will attempt to de-gloss my glossed dull cote... with more dull cote. confusing sounding, yes.

 

[airhead]

I just noticed that you are in CT? cold? Stuff smells like an auto body shop if you do it inside, but in the winter, that may be your only option?

If it is cold, keep the minis inside and the spray can too. Put the minis on a paper plate, shake can. Rush outside, spray, then bring everything back in. You\'ll still smell the minis, but it wont\' be bad enough to get you a buzz.

 

[Hinton]

Originally posted by airhead
I just noticed that you are in CT? cold? Stuff smells like an auto body shop if you do it inside, but in the winter, that may be your only option?

If it is cold, keep the minis inside and the spray can too. Put the minis on a paper plate, shake can. Rush outside, spray, then bring everything back in. You\'ll still smell the minis, but it wont\' be bad enough to get you a buzz.

It\'s pretty cold here in Nebraska, too. I spray inside (yeah, probably a bad idea) in my kitchen. Everything stays inside so it stays warm, but I open the door and spray near it (once I\'ve shaken the can for about 3 minutes) so I get some ventilation.

 

[J2FcM]

I just stink up the entire basement. Haven\'t given it a try yet. But soooon!

 

[Jericho]

Maybe I\'m not shaking mine enough either. It\'s always given me a slight gloss finish that I can only really notice on dark minis. And in the cracks since I blackline :flame:

I\'ll try giving it the old Vallejo treatment and shake the snot out of it next time.

 

[phael_minis]

it\'s gloss when not shaken enough. Just pass 2 more coats of well shakened and it will look ok (I tried it!)

 

[matty1001]

Its the same with brush on stuff, i have a bottle of humbrol matte, and if i shake it and dip the brush in the top i get a glossy effect, i have to dip the brush right in and get loads of the compound stuff from the bottom of the bottle on the brush.

 

[Antenociti]

Originally posted by J2FcM


I tried to bring this up in another Dull Cote thread, but it seems it got ignored due to the thread title.

Anyways...

It seems so0me practice pieces I sprayed with dull cote have picked up a light gloss finish... Did i use too much? too little? I think I used 2-3 sprays\\passes, at random time intervals.. 10 minutes after the first spray, then like hours\\maybe a day? after the 2nd. I felt the spray passes were quick and light.

1: Room temp can, room temp figurines
2: shake can for 2 minutes (yup TWO miinutes)
3: Spray lightly from at least 14 inches from figure and one direction
4: leave for 30-60 mins
5: repeat from 3 from different direction
6: repeat as needed


Common problems/mistakes:

1: gloss or satin finish: too much spray: too close to figure: can not shaken
2: white spotting: cold, damp, high humidity, temperature differential between can and figure


Remember that the above really applies to all aerosols: with matte aerosols you are trying to ensure that the matting agent (the stuff that makes the figure look matte) is really well spread amongst the other *gunk* in the can. Matting agent is thick and gooey stuff, it doesn\'t like to be mixed and it separates VERY quickly sinking back down to the bottom of the can.

As such you HAVE to keep it agitated to succeed with it. If you shake it for 30 secs, then spray, wait a few minutes then spray again you are only, really, just wasting your money.

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The *ultimate* matte will always be application of a *pure* matting agent - some pro painters use the matting agent portion of Blackfriars acrylic matte varnish and swear by it - but the methodology is not for the faint-hearted. (and blackfriars have now changed their matting agent making it not as good anyway).