glue

i just startet painting again after 5 years break
now i have the same problem as i painted last time
i glued my miniatur (a slann of lizardmen) and sprayed it
then i started painting, tipped to the arm and it felt down
so i think i did something wrong
now i wanna know what u use to glue to make it better nexttime
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
It\'s not realy the glue. It\'s to do with the flat surface you are using not having enough of a grip.
Most people Pin fragile areas like arms, using a pin vice to drill a hole and a small piece of Paperclip inserted as a support mechanism for the glue.
Superglue on it\'s own has very little Shearing strength so that a hard knock at the wrong time means a repair. And yes we\'ve all been there and had to do that over again.

Oh and welcome to the Forums.
 

Modderrhu

New member
Pinning. Drill two corresponding holes in the two pieces you want to stick together, cut a pin that will fit into these holes. Now when you put the pieces together, the pin will go through the joint, making it far, far stronger than with glue alone. This works well with just superglue.

For a really strong joint, pin, and then use liquid epoxy as glue. Few accidents will be able to break this joint. It\'s possible to get even stronger still. If you break such a joint just before the glue has completely set, but after it is sure to retain its shape, the glue will form a mould of the surface. Now, supergluing the epoxy glue to the mini surface will result in one exceptionally tough joint.

Superglue\'s joy is its ability to form a bond with a surface, but it lacks structural strength. Epoxy doesn\'t adhere as well as superglue, but it plainly refuses to change its shape. Using the two together is insanely strong.

Edit: or what Dragonsreach just said.
 

lahatiel

New member
For metal figures I use Zap-a-Gap CA+ super glue and have been very happy. For plastics, I use their Zap Plastic Glue. A couple of things to keep in mind:

1) You don\'t have to necessarily use a plastics-specific glue on them, you could use the regular Zap-a-Gap, too. But the plastics-specific glue is formulated to slightly melt the plastic on each side of the join to each other, creating a stronger bond.

2) To ensure the strongest join (most important when gluing metal, but always useful), you should consider pinning: use a pin vice and a tiny bit to drill a small hole a couple of mm deep into both sides being joined, into which you\'ll insert and glue a small piece of wire as you glue the pieces together. This will make for a much stronger join, and a search of this forum will find some much more detailed step-by-steps of the process if you need them.

Also, keep in mind that less is usually more where superglues are concerned; a drop is generally all you need, unless the surface areas being joined is more than a cm or so wide, and using too much glue can actually weaken the bond. Finally, while I do endorse The Warstore for internet sales based on great personal experiences with them, I gave links to the glues on The Warstore\'s pages only for a quick-and-easy reference to see exactly what I was talking about. However, these are common, popular glues and you should be able to find them in many different places.

Edit: or what Dragonreach and Modderrhu just said... my fault for typing too much, too slowly! ;)
 
zip grap can not be bought in germany
pinned it with a needle and than i triend with a small nail as pin but it brocke up again
i used \"pattex blitzkleber\" it is a cyanacrylat glue after this i tried the original games workshop super glue and then \"uhu component glue\"
i tried every glue on another miniature with the deep of around 5 mm pinholes and i made the grip better with an 1000 sand paper
plastik and metall is perfect but metall and metall not
 

lahatiel

New member
For metal to metal, you don\'t want the surfaces you\'re gluing to be perfectly smooth. Rather, you want them to be roughed up a bit as the grooves will give the glue something to grip into. I\'m not saying the surfaces on which you put the glue should have deep gouges, but scratching in a few lines on each surface with a knife should help.
 

goblinLB

New member
file the surface ur gluing so the glue has somewere to go that really helps and do a thin layer of water on one side and glue on the other i tend to do that and it really helps
 
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