GW changes to cheaper materials and puts up prices.

[MrPickles]

my experience with metal is that the paint doesnt key off it very well at all, its like trying to put paint on teflon. you need some heavy duty primer or the paint will just come right off the moment you touch the mini. i also hate the weight of it - you drop it, youre screwed. i love plastic. why cant they just cast everything in plastic?

 

[Kalidane]

Thinned Vallejo model air gray primer brushes on extremely well. I'm amazed at it every time I use it whatever the material.

The weight issue is largely one of taste. I've never dropped an infant, nor a full bottle of beer nor a metal model. YMMV.

<yoink>

Handle Bjorn the Fell-Handed and see what you think. Any model I can kill an intruder with is sufficiently manly to get on to my painting or gaming table. I use 'can' in the hypothetical sense.

Edit: not required

 

[MrPickles]

i thought of another great great HUGE plus of plastic. i can snip apart and repose arms, legs, whatever very easily and with just basic tools. with metal u need a saw or power tool usually.

 

[Einion]

my experience with metal is that the paint doesnt key off it very well at all, its like trying to put paint on teflon. you need some heavy duty primer or the paint will just come right off the moment you touch the mini.

Yep, have to use a proper primer for metal. But then I think that's also true of resin and plastic, if you're painting with water-borne paints (acrylics, vinyls).

i love plastic. why cant they just cast everything in plastic?

This is mentioned previously in the thread - moulds as expensive as all get out and at heart don't allow for undercuts. Moulds have to be multi-part and very carefully engineered to allow true 3D forms to be injection moulded.

The weight issue is largely one of taste. I've never dropped an infant, nor a full bottle of beer nor a metal model. YMMV.

Hehe, but even having one keel over on the tabletop can make little flats on some of the raised detail. This and the usual slight pitting on the surface (often much worse for larger pieces) began to put me off metal many years back.

Einion

 

[supervike]

I like the feel of metal, it feels more solid, and thus collectible.

Plastic models feel like toys to me.

That said, that's just a minor quibble. I just like miniatures, and as long as they are in the subject I find appealing, I'll take them in whatever format.

 

[Kalidane]

Zooming out a little, this is of course a discussion which has gone on for years. All materials have their respective pros and cons. Seasoned collectors are more likely to prefer metal (nostalgia playing a part) while wargamers are more likely to prefer plastic.

It's a little like arguing that my favourite superhero can beat up your favourite superhero. Which he fully would.

 

[Torn blue sky]

My superhero would ruin you all.

So nyer.

 

[Chrome]

My superhero would ruin you all.

So nyer.

Just like he ruined you. ;D

 

[crystella333]

My superhero would ruin you all.

So nyer.

NIce to see you in the land of the living my friend
Where have you been hiding?

 

[Torn blue sky]

Shhhhh...
I'm hiding.

 

[clansizemore]

Shhhhh...
I'm hiding.

Freeze Sucka, Federal Officer

 

[Sir Wulf]

Zooming out a little, this is of course a discussion which has gone on for years. All materials have their respective pros and cons. Seasoned collectors are more likely to prefer metal (nostalgia playing a part) while wargamers are more likely to prefer plastic.

We all learn techniques suited for working with particular materials and paints. When I lived back East, I worked with Humbrol oil-based paints, along with some Floquil and others. After I moved to Arizona and got married, I was forced to switch to water-based paint, as the oil paints made my wife feel nauseated. Learning how to effectively blend water-based paint was a constant frustration in Tucson's dry atmosphere.

I don't think that my experience is that unusual. Different materials and techniques force a frustrating period of adaptation.

I also avoid resin miniatures, as some seem ill-suited to the Arizona climate. I've heard that they risk melting anytime they're left in a hot car.

 

[Master of fact]

I am also hiding........

 

[cannon_fodder]

ah...but what are you hiding????

 

[combatwordsmith]

I used to complain about GW a lot, but then I became a Press Ganger and we are expressly forbidden from badmouthing competing game companies. I'm not sure if this is because GW is pretty litigous, or whether they just want to keep a friendly image with the other game companies, but it's been pretty hard not to get started on one of my long but fun rants on the subject. Every time I hear about GW doing something, it's just them distancing themselves from their customer base, their distributors, and Australians. Please, GW, don't give me any more ammunition.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Just found this on GW's site:
Due to high demand, each Citadel Finecast product is limited to five (5) per customer.

Surely they mean due to high demand of replacement pieces?

 

[noneedforaname]

Originally it was limited to three so I guess demand must be falling, make of that what you will.

 

[atacam]

Just found this on GW's site:
Due to high demand, each Citadel Finecast product is limited to five (5) per customer.

Surely they mean due to high demand of replacement pieces?

Lol. I must admit, I thought the same.

 

[freakinacage]

they now have:

To sort out flash encrusted and bubble riddled fine cast

 

[BPI]

I'm just hoping that'll turn out to be a faked page Freak, having us all on. It might make the nausea subside at least B.