GW foundation paints

[nutcracker]

Hi all - I recently tried out the new GW foundation paints. Not sure what I think yet,
Does anyone know the basic principle? Are they merely very opaque pigments, or are they more particulate, or just larger particles?
They seemed hard on the brushes - so wash out well!!

 

[Thunderhawker]

From what I gather they are a thicker pigment in a thicker medium. This means they dry faster than regular citadel paints, so keep your brushes wet at all times. One article in WD mentioned glazes and washes at 20:1 water to paint.

Edit: I just ordered mine as well.

 

[Rocky Rulz]

I\'ve had the pleasure of using the paints at my Local GW store and have found that they are excellent in a whole bunch of different ways.

I use alot of water, so my main use for these f. paints it to speed up my layering. It has cut my layering time by 30% on models i care for, and %50 on models i want to finish quick.

 

[Thunderhawker]

Sweet. My time is budgeted, so that\'s good news!

 

[Antar000]

I tried them at the local GW...
not impressed. honestly, they were too thick and didn\'t cover quite well enough for my tastes.

 

[Tinweasel]

Would you say they\'re about twice as thick as the regular Citadel variety? If they\'re recommending 1:20 paint/thinner for washes and I use 1:10 for the normal paints...

I have the set, but haven\'t opened \'em yet. I just picked \'em up at the weekend.

 

[mattsterbenz]

I have been very impressed with my set.

They are a little thicker than the normal citadel paints, so just thin it and it should still cover in one coat. But the thickness is not why they cover so well, they are packed with more pigment than vallejo paints! Hence why you need to thin them so much with washes.

I have tried a few washes/glazes with them and you really do have to thin them significantly more, and I think this is a good thing, means less paint to build up on the model and obscure detail.

One of my favorite colors in the set is \"Dheneb Stone\" (I think thats how it\'s spelled). This is lighter than Kommando Khaki, but it seriously covers in ONE coat. Add some white for highlights and some graveyard earth for shading and bang, good looking white in a fraction of the time. I never thought it could be possible!

-Matt

 

[flashlight warrior]

The main thing about the foundation paints is that they are aliquid pigment, meaning that it isnt made up of little flakes of paint suppended in the medium like other paints. Thats why it covers so well. I bought a set for myself a little while ago and I am really happy withthem, however, I found that when mixing colours and adding water for shading and highlighting etc the two colours gradually seperate from eachother on the pallette. It doesnt do that on the model, so there are no worries there, but it was a little weird having to constantly stir up the mixture on the pallette over and over.

 

[Gilvan Blight]

Having now tried both, I recommend and prefer the new P3 paints by Privateer. They are basically the same forumala, but I find hte privateer mix better and are a little less thick. Plus at least here they are cheaper.

 

[rextalon]

Having used the standard GW brand, Wal-Mart special, Vallejo, and now Foundation paints (not in that order), I have to say that there was something about Vallejo that I liked. It wasn\'t the ease of use, It wasn\'t the non-spillable container. I think it was the vibrant color and coverage. I was speed painting at the time and didn\'t get to explore the pallette, but I felt like it was a richer color.
Having said that, I will be using the foundation paints to paint my new Adeptus Mechanicus army. Not because I just dumped a load of money on them, but because the colors I need are in the line and well done.
For instance, the new Denab Stone color is AWESOME as a newer, better palid flesh tone. It covers in an instant and mixes well. The red is a great compliment to the established GW line, as are the grey tones. Try them in combination with codex and shadow grey and you\'ll see what I mean.

 

[Rocky Rulz]

Originally posted by Antar000
I tried them at the local GW...
not impressed. honestly, they were too thick and didn\'t cover quite well enough for my tastes.

Just add water

 

[DrEvilmonki]

am not claiming this to be great work, just a quickie I am doing up for my local GW store.
I am finding the foundation paints an absolute breeze to paint with and there is enough promise there for me to say with a bit more care and attention than I am currently giving them there is no reason the results can\'t be much better.

As to the flip top lids, I would never leave my paints open no matter what sort of lid it had.
And yes they do dry out much faster than normal GW paints (and I assume other brand paints as well).


Anyway here is an example.

The red is (from a black undercoat) Charadon granite, then homagaunt purple, then mechrite red. I originally then used macharius solar orange and iyanden darksun to highlight but it was a bit to dull so changed to using blood red, blazing orange and then a touch of yellow.

The metal parts are mithril with a wash of granite, then granite/scorched brown, then granite/scorched brown/black and finally black.

Oh and I could see myself painting an army now because god damn for me getting to that spot was really quick.

 

[freakinacage]

good job! i am experimenting with them now. sometimes the faster drying is helpful but others it\'s a complete pain in the arse

 

[raginggaijin]

Originally posted by freakinacage
good job! i am experimenting with them now. sometimes the faster drying is helpful but others it\'s a complete pain in the arse

Would Slo-Dri help or would it be a wasted effort?

 

[usurpator]

I\'m in love with \"astronomican grey\".
I paint using a \"grisaille\" (shades of grey undercoat) and this is a blessing!
But dry brushing is a no no with foundation... or am I just clumsy?
Other experiences anyone????????

 

[Mason Storm]

I have done some drybrushing with Foundation paints (mainly for basing some things). I wanted to try them because of the neutral colors for rocks, dirt, etc. and found them to be a bit difficult, but usuable. I found you need to make sure most of the paint is wiped off the brush (even moreso than normal drybrushing), apply the paint very, very lightly, and sometimes a final wash or glaze is needed to dull the highlights. All in all, due to the high pigment, not ideal, but not impossible to use for drybrushing.

 

[uberdark]

i have noticed that most of the colors are just tones and not tints. this is what gives them the better coverage, not just the pigment level. i used them one day and was thoroughly upset with them. they were lump even after watering down and the coverage just did not work for me. i still am a fan of gw original paints and p3. other than that i think its a waist of money on these foundation paints imho.

im glad i used my friends instead of buying them.

later all