GW new undercoat paints

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Gnome

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So I went into GW in Calgary the other day and found they have some new paints. First I thought they had renamed old paints but I was told that they are new undercoats for fast coverage.

Has anyone used these and how do you rate them?

Sorry if this has come up before, I did search but didnt find anything.
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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Foundation Paints

here

I\'ve used them quite lot in demo\'s and in one off examples and found them to do exactly what they where intended to do. Give a reasonable coat of strong colours over a black primer.
 
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Ritual

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I do not quite like how they behave when painting the actual minis, although it might just be a matter of not working that well with my personal way of painting. I do, however, find them excellent for painting bases and terrain as their great coverage saves me lot of time.
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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Anders I agree Foundation paints are really unsuitable for glazes and protracted thin layer painting.
Our techniques of multiple layers/blending aren\'t suited to their heavy pigment levels, come to think of there are a number of the standard GW paints that could be applied to as well. :D

But the Foundations do work really well as Army Speed Painting basecoats which is what they are designed for.
 
green stuff

green stuff

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I tend to like most of the new color range, but I\'m still baffled by how these paints react on my palet after a few minutes (pigment and medium separation).

Also, I use them more to desaturate colors or to do washes, than actual base colors. But that\'s more linked to the way I paint.

[edit]@Mike : LOL :p. I do agree that they are initially quite thick and work for base colors, but I find them to hold well to thinning.[/edit]
 
Dragonsreach

Dragonsreach

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Originally posted by green stuff
I tend to like most of the new color range, but I\'m still baffled by how these paints react on my palet after a few minutes (pigment and medium separation).
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Cedric what type of Palette are you using as I\'ve seen this mention a few times but never personally encountered it.
 
green stuff

green stuff

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@Mike : I just take a piece of tin foil that I fold in four. The foundation paints usually hold 5 to 10 minutes or so and then loose cohesion. But they can be remixed together with a brush, and I haven\'t noticed any problems once the paints are applied on the minis.

[edit]The effect looks a lot like diluted metal paints when the flakes start showing.[/edit]
 
green stuff

green stuff

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Well that\'s the strange thing. I find that they thin down well but on a short periode, then you have to mix them up again :p.
 
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matty1001

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I\'v had them break up once on a model which was annoying. It was with the purple, ended up with a very shiny ink like purple, and a very grey purple side by side.

I went off them soon after that.
 
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uberdark

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i equate GW\'s foundation paints to the Sega CD released for the sega genesis at the same time they released the sega saturn.

something was already good, but they released something like the sega cd which was decent, but lacked the capabilities that the saturn did.

i think they have shot themselves in the foot with these paints. i didnt like them a year ago, and dont like them now. although i love the bottles, they really keep the paint.
 
darklord

darklord

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they split on me too, but i do like there more muted tones so tend to use as a base for other colours, i find the containers a right ppain in the ass though, leak down the back
 
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Gnome

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Thanks for that link DR. I didnt search back that far and wasnt searching for foundation paints because I totaly forgot what they were called :) Age is catching me up.
I tried calthan brown in store yesterday over a spray of black which the store boys kindly did for me. Even over the large area that the spray missed it seemed to stick well and gave nice coverage.
It was the first time I have been able to paint for I dont know how long and even though it was just basecoating some waywatchers it felt goood :D
 
No Such Agency

No Such Agency

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Originally posted by Dragonsreach
But the Foundations do work really well as Army Speed Painting basecoats which is what they are designed for.
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I wish they had one in Catachan Green. I swear it\'s got the sh*ttiest coverage ever, despite being as thick as glue. And it\'s a fairly useful army green base too :(
 
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Godlikebuthumble

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I got to try some around Christmas. And imho they\'re really great for basecoating on large surfaces and/or larger mini counts.
The separating is kind of an issue, one has to remix quite often. Also, once out of the pot, they tend to dry out quite quickly, but using a wet pallette helps heaps.
 
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demonherald

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After testing testing and trying them out I have to say I don\'t know how I managed without them.. Wet Pallette is pretty much a must but they are great for toning down colours providing good solid basecoats even just a bit of them mixed in with the colour you are wanting helps loads and the matt finish is ace for doing rust and weathering.. all round love em and go through loads.. The main drawback is the piece of shit pot they come in......
Chardon Granite is awesome as a basecoat for stone work on bases as well as furs .. Just got that touch of greeniness to it that stops it being as harsh as the other greys also makes a great base for NMM ..

Using the mechrite red in a basecoat for reds really does make a lot of difference giving reds a lot more strength all round...
same with Tau sept ochre and ianden darksun for yellows.

Whites especially over black couldn\'t be easier Fenris grey with a touch of black highlighted up with astronomican grey then white.. or Creams like Dark Angel Robes are a breeze with calthn brown a touch of hormogaunt purple as base highlighted up with Khemri brown and a touch of denheb stone to finish..
speaking of Denheb stone it is a great off white colour that is fantastic for using as a lightener for highlights in other citadel colours taking a little of the brightness out and giving some great more natural colours.
Ork skin the greens are great.. Oh and NSA knarloc green mixed with Chardon Granite makes a great better covering Catachan green...

Solarius orange thinned and used as a \"juice\" is great rust....

much much much more....phew.. but all in all after initial scepticism and doubt extensive tests have shown they are an invaluable tool for me They are just different to other paints thats all....
I Love em....
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Jericho

Consummate Brushlicker
They make your lips tingly, which disturbs me greatly. But then again, I mix greenstuff like chewing gum and I used my tongue to smooth out the hard to reach surfaces of a big conversion I was doing, so I guess it\'s not the worst thing I do to myself while modelling.

Also, using superglue + accelerator to seal up cuts to my thumb when hacking apart models. Very smart.
 
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