Has this happened to you?

sniffles

New member
I had a Reaper figure that I didn\'t like the paint job on, so I stripped it with Pine-Sol. After stripping I noticed the metal was a little discolored, but it didn\'t cause any problems in repainting. But I still wasn\'t happy so I threw it in the Pine-Sol again. Then I forgot to take it out. I finally pulled it out last night. It had been in the Pine-Sol for about a month. After I finished washing it off I noted that the metal is now very dark, and the paint didn\'t come off as well as it did the first time (it was painted with craft paints the first time, then repainted with Vallejo).

Does anyone know if the darkening of the metal is something I should be concerned about? And is there a better stripper to use with Vallejo paints?

[edit] I also discovered that two trips to \"the dip\" will kill both Zap-a-Gap adhesive and gray stuff putty.
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The discoloration of the metal shouldn\'t affect anything.
Simple Green will mess up green stuff and brown stuff, too, but it takes awhile. I prefer Simple Green over Pine Sol, as I\'ve used both, and Simple Green never does anything but take the paint off, and very well, at that.
 

Valloa

New member
The metal color change shouldn\'t give you any problems, even as annoying as it is. Some of my Reaper minis change colors after stripped them with pine sol and some didn\'t and I\'ve never had a problem with any of them either way. I did find that I prefered Simple Green as it was not only faster and better but smells way better.
Simple Green should work just fine with stripping Vallejos and most acrylic paint. For METAL minis that won\'t strip easily (mainly really old ones or ones where I used Ral Partha Primer or the very few that won\'t strip well in Simple Green) I use Winsor & Newton Brush Cleaner & Restorer. That stuff is way more potent and also eats glue, plastic bases and putty. Great if you want to strip any of those off, but not if you want to keep them.
 

EricJ

Active member
yeah, I\'ve seen the color change before, it didn\'t seem to mess anything up for me either.

I have though noticed if you do keep a mini in pine sol for too long the paint sort of almost rehardens onto the mini, after a couple days you start going backwards it seems :(
 

Ogrebane

Active member
DOmt use pinesol but I do use oven cleaner and the same thing happens. Ive never had any trouble with discolored metals. It seems to disappear after I undercoat it.
 

supervike

Super Moderator
Yup, I\'ve had this happen too. I\'ve never notice any ill effects from it, but you should probably take some dish soap and scrub the heck out of it with a toothbrush, after it emerges from the Pine-sol.

I\'ve been debating whether or not to invest in something like this:

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www.micromark.com

It is an ultrasonic cleaner. Supposedly, it \'microscrubs\' due to sonic bubbles or some such thing.

They want 85 bucks for it, and that seems pretty steep for something I\'m not even sure will work.

There is also something called a \'sonic jewelry cleaner\' for under 20 bucks. The well doesn\'t look deep enough for a mini, but its a start...

Anybody ever try anything like that?
 

sniffles

New member
Originally posted by EricJ
yeah, I\'ve seen the color change before, it didn\'t seem to mess anything up for me either.

I have though noticed if you do keep a mini in pine sol for too long the paint sort of almost rehardens onto the mini, after a couple days you start going backwards it seems :(
Yes, I was noticing that paint re-hardening, too! I had a much harder time getting the paint off this time, but I wasn\'t sure if it was because I\'d left it in so long or because it was a different variety of paint.

I\'ll have to try Simple Green. I wouldn\'t mind getting rid of that astringent cleanser smell of Pine-Sol.
 

Einion

New member
Originally posted by JakeSh
This is called lead rot. I ruined a very rare \'91 Games Day marine by leaving it in the dip too long. Always be very careful stripping lead minis with Pine-Sol.
Nope, different thing. No lead in minis now and besides, lead acetate is white.

Einion
 
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