HUGE Ilyad Barbarian!
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Don\'t snap the arm next time! 
I think this mini is a quite substantial leap forward for you, compared to the other minis you brought to Paris. I\'m sure, if your entire collection would have held this quality, you would have got something.
Areas where you can definitely improve would be the metallics, the leather straps and the fur.
The metallics can use more depth in the shading and more really bright spots, pretty much like when you do NMM. Get yourself a bottle of VMC Metallic Medium, or similar, to use for the \"hot spots\".
Also, the blending on the axe blade is pretty rough.
The leather straps are too much a mass off brown with too little definition and contrast between light and shadow. You should work more on this and do so in two different ways as well.
First, treat the entire area as an entity and give it shape. (For instance, treat the axe handle as a smooth bar and shade the under side and highlight the upper side.)
Then, start picking out the individual straps and give them good definition and go further with the highlighting and shading where needed. Pretty much like you would do hair.
The fur looks a bit rough and I think you have overdone the brightest highlights. Use them more sparingly so that you have more nuances between the lightest and the darkest.
Hope this is helpful and makes sense.
I think this mini is a quite substantial leap forward for you, compared to the other minis you brought to Paris. I\'m sure, if your entire collection would have held this quality, you would have got something.
Areas where you can definitely improve would be the metallics, the leather straps and the fur.
The metallics can use more depth in the shading and more really bright spots, pretty much like when you do NMM. Get yourself a bottle of VMC Metallic Medium, or similar, to use for the \"hot spots\".
Also, the blending on the axe blade is pretty rough.
The leather straps are too much a mass off brown with too little definition and contrast between light and shadow. You should work more on this and do so in two different ways as well.
First, treat the entire area as an entity and give it shape. (For instance, treat the axe handle as a smooth bar and shade the under side and highlight the upper side.)
Then, start picking out the individual straps and give them good definition and go further with the highlighting and shading where needed. Pretty much like you would do hair.
The fur looks a bit rough and I think you have overdone the brightest highlights. Use them more sparingly so that you have more nuances between the lightest and the darkest.
Hope this is helpful and makes sense.
Talonicus
New member
Wow Matty.
I think this is so much better than your female barbarian.
The skin tones are excellent, they have more depth.
Criticism.
1. Blending. More time blending on the skin would be time well spent.
2. The metallics looks quite \"rough\" as in not smooth, may be the resin. Could be the metal applied to thick, they start to lump if to thick.
3. More variations in the metals. Very thin paint/washes applied multiple times really can lift the metals.
4. The fur is for me the biggest let down. the paint looks to thick. Sometimes you just have to suck it in and paint the various strands of the fur individualy. It makes a difference.
Sorry if you think I am harsh.... I am a nice man really.
I would still give this an 8.5, just a bit more work and its a 9 from me.
Nigel
Ps Paint Orks!!!!
I think this is so much better than your female barbarian.
The skin tones are excellent, they have more depth.
Criticism.
1. Blending. More time blending on the skin would be time well spent.
2. The metallics looks quite \"rough\" as in not smooth, may be the resin. Could be the metal applied to thick, they start to lump if to thick.
3. More variations in the metals. Very thin paint/washes applied multiple times really can lift the metals.
4. The fur is for me the biggest let down. the paint looks to thick. Sometimes you just have to suck it in and paint the various strands of the fur individualy. It makes a difference.
Sorry if you think I am harsh.... I am a nice man really.
I would still give this an 8.5, just a bit more work and its a 9 from me.
Nigel
Ps Paint Orks!!!!
Originally posted by Ritual
Don\'t snap the arm next time!
Yea! D\'oh!
The leather straps are too much a mass off brown with too little definition and contrast between light and shadow. You should work more on this and do so in two different ways as well.
First, treat the entire area as an entity and give it shape. (For instance, treat the axe handle as a smooth bar and shade the under side and highlight the upper side.)
Then, start picking out the individual straps and give them good definition and go further with the highlighting and shading where needed. Pretty much like you would do hair.
The fur looks a bit rough and I think you have overdone the brightest highlights. Use them more sparingly so that you have more nuances between the lightest and the darkest.
Cracking advice! Never thought about treating it as one entity, but it seems so obvious when you point it out!
Cheers, Anders!
I\'m really striving to improve now so all this advice is great!
:bouncy:
(I\'m in a stonking good mood today if you hadn\'t noticed!)
squig hunter
New member
I agree with Anders on everything really but I would like to add that you need more varitation in your metals, add a bit of gold, some bronze. that is what brought down your other barbarian for me.
Squig
Squig
hubbabubba
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Can\'t disagree with anything Ritual has said, he\'s pretty much covered all, but I\'d add that as the skin, fur and leather areas are very similar in the colour range and tonality, it is even more important to differentiate between them, there are areas such as where the raised thigh meets that loin cloth that I think would benefit from a clear speration, perhaps using a cold brown instead of black, but be careful as if you were to go over the top you\'d flatten the overall effect.
I think the skin tones are great, I particularly like the colour range you selected. That particular area seems to be a be leap forward for you.
Nice big pictures too.lol
I think the skin tones are great, I particularly like the colour range you selected. That particular area seems to be a be leap forward for you.
Nice big pictures too.lol
Yep, lots of good advice from other folks so no need for me to add anything really. Perhaps it\'s time to stop painting models that are mostly skin, because you seem to have that technique down pretty good already. Well, unless it happens to be Ork, or indeed Orc skin. That\'s a good plan. That Talonicus chap knows what he\'s talking about it seems!
Basecoat VMC Saddle Brown (Dark Flesh is the GW equivilent)
Tanned Flesh everywhere but the deepest recesses, it goes a wierd orangy colour, but it a great base for the dwarf flesh and creates a great \'foundation\'
Dwarf Flesh, cover most of the tanned with glazes which allows the TF to shine through.
Wash and glaze with purples. I just use VMC purple and add black for the deepest bits.
Redo the dwarf flesh, but only very thinnly.
Highlight up to Elf flesh
Highlight up to VMC Ivory
Reglaze with purples until happy.
Overall glaze with VMC Transparent Green, just adds an extra \'touch\'
The basecoat is basically a wash, about 1 paint to 8 water. And I use about 6 or 7 layers to build the colour up, leaving white highlights from the primer showing.
Every layer over this is a glaze using the same consistency 1:8. Takes ages but worth it in the end.
@Uber: Sorry but I hate wet blending. Only ever use washes and glazes.
Tanned Flesh everywhere but the deepest recesses, it goes a wierd orangy colour, but it a great base for the dwarf flesh and creates a great \'foundation\'
Dwarf Flesh, cover most of the tanned with glazes which allows the TF to shine through.
Wash and glaze with purples. I just use VMC purple and add black for the deepest bits.
Redo the dwarf flesh, but only very thinnly.
Highlight up to Elf flesh
Highlight up to VMC Ivory
Reglaze with purples until happy.
Overall glaze with VMC Transparent Green, just adds an extra \'touch\'
The basecoat is basically a wash, about 1 paint to 8 water. And I use about 6 or 7 layers to build the colour up, leaving white highlights from the primer showing.
Every layer over this is a glaze using the same consistency 1:8. Takes ages but worth it in the end.
@Uber: Sorry but I hate wet blending. Only ever use washes and glazes.
COG
New member
mat good job
this looks great will look even better with a group of them. the large pics are a boon also.
i have noticed that your minis are loseing
more of their clothes.lol
also on another note does anyone know anyone or any company thats got a list or old cataloge of these minis. i want to pick some up but can only find some on ebay which lacks in choices.
???:beer:
oh and the rough no nonsense look really completes the mini
again good job
this looks great will look even better with a group of them. the large pics are a boon also.
i have noticed that your minis are loseing
more of their clothes.lol
also on another note does anyone know anyone or any company thats got a list or old cataloge of these minis. i want to pick some up but can only find some on ebay which lacks in choices.
???:beer:
oh and the rough no nonsense look really completes the mini
again good job
Interesting what you say about wetblending - I\'ve never used anything else, and I always have this feeling that layering would produce much better results, but I can never be bothered lol
As for the mini, nice work! The skintones are awesome. Very dynamic. I still think you need to improve on your metals though (nice opportunities for weathering and variation here), and the leather straps and fur let this one down for me a bit. I preferred the simplicity of that veirges geirges one to be honest, but the skintones on this one are more impressive.
As for the mini, nice work! The skintones are awesome. Very dynamic. I still think you need to improve on your metals though (nice opportunities for weathering and variation here), and the leather straps and fur let this one down for me a bit. I preferred the simplicity of that veirges geirges one to be honest, but the skintones on this one are more impressive.
