Desertmerc
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I plan on posting pics as soon as I find a decent camera, this webcam is no good.
I come asking for help.
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raginggaijin
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In the video you see Vallejo brushes being used, and are available from Fantization.com. I love their brushes though they are difficult to come by in my area, so I have to mail-order them.
http://www.fantization.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=73
Excellent substitutes are the Formula P3 sable hair brushes or the Reaper Master sable hair brushes. They must be the sable hair brushes though. Both are excellent to use while learning and are affordable. Many are available at your local Hobby store. So far the P3 brushes are the only brushes that come close to matching the Vallejo quality.
Do not get brushes with acrylic or synthetic tips. They are garbage and the tip will curl after the first-time use. Reaper has some and they blow. Stick to the sable hair brushes!
The brush sizes to start with are size 1, size 0, and size 00.
If you are just starting out and a GW store is nearby I recommend using their brushes while you practice. Pick up the Small Drybrush, Standard Brush, and Fine Detail Brush.
I also use Windsor and Newton Series 7 for display miniatures, though I do not recommend them starting out. They are the Excalibur of paint brushes in quality and control, and should be treated with the utmost care.
A basecoat should be applied in 2-3 coats to ensure full coverage without clogging up detail.
Sorry for the late reply!
The best way I have heard it described is the following:
You should thin your paint on a palette such that when you drag your brush through the paint, it \"resets\" itself fairly quickly. If you do this, you know the paint is not thick enough to leave brushmarks. If you can see the white (I always use a white palette) through the paint, then it\'s too thin.
Desertmerc
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Wow everyone, thanks for all the help, and ragingaijin, awesome video. With the help of the video and the tips given, I still have hope, and now need to find a decent brush, instead of these damn fine details! Quick question, I was painting the side vents of my rhino a dark gold (lame I know) and it looks like the paint is very thin, even straight out of the pot, so I dont get a smooth surface since its all globby. Should I be dry brushing it on instead?
Aliengod3
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Using paint straight from the pot is not really a good idea. If you want a smooth flat surface the least you should do is add 1 part paint to one part water. If you are just painting for gaming then stay with about 1:1 or 2:1 water
aint. Keep in mind that diluting your paint will always require you to put on a couple of layers of paint to get a solid surface.
Just be patient and take your time. When I first started this hobby my knowledge of how to clean and paint my models was ZERO! When I bought and painted my Fantasy starter set a few years back I painted straight onto the plastic. It took me a couple of days to realize that I needed primer to keep the paint on the mini. Surprisingly the aggresive sellers, and \"uber hobbysts\", at GW did not even bother to tell me how I was suppose to build and paint my models. I did not even know I was suppose to clean off mould lines from my minis UNTIL I STARTED WORKING AT GW! I was in the hobby for over a year! How is that for stupidity?
So trust me, you are a newbie but you have come to the right place for help. Just remember that you cannot win painting competitions with the first mini you paint. Knowing how to improve comes with practice and experience so take your time and be patient.
About gold, it does not cover well. Thin it down and apply alot of layers. Again 1:1 wateraint and do at least 10 layers. Whenever I use gold metallics it takes a while to get it solid and smooth.
aint. Keep in mind that diluting your paint will always require you to put on a couple of layers of paint to get a solid surface. Just be patient and take your time. When I first started this hobby my knowledge of how to clean and paint my models was ZERO! When I bought and painted my Fantasy starter set a few years back I painted straight onto the plastic. It took me a couple of days to realize that I needed primer to keep the paint on the mini. Surprisingly the aggresive sellers, and \"uber hobbysts\", at GW did not even bother to tell me how I was suppose to build and paint my models. I did not even know I was suppose to clean off mould lines from my minis UNTIL I STARTED WORKING AT GW! I was in the hobby for over a year! How is that for stupidity?
So trust me, you are a newbie but you have come to the right place for help. Just remember that you cannot win painting competitions with the first mini you paint. Knowing how to improve comes with practice and experience so take your time and be patient.
About gold, it does not cover well. Thin it down and apply alot of layers. Again 1:1 water
aint and do at least 10 layers. Whenever I use gold metallics it takes a while to get it solid and smooth.Desertmerc
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I dont really know if I will be playing tabletop or not, but I really truly enjoy building and painting the models, no matter how crappy they look. So, 10 layers eh? About how charged should my brush be when I am painting? Just the tip and wipe it off?
droogie77
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keep a paper towel on the desk and just dab the brush a little after you load the paint on the brush. Try to keep paint from filling the entire brush, this will help the brush to last longer and prevent colours from drying permanantly in the brissles. I dont play any games either, I just love building and painting 40k models. When I first started back in 1998, it was all trial and error for me too. Give it time and your models will look better and better and you will get to the point where you cant believe you painted the model sitting in front of you!
Desertmerc
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Ok, so I have been following all your tips and tricks, including using the blister pack foam and such. One thing I am noticing, is that I see very faint streaks and such. How do you guys go about getting a very smooth surface? Very thin multiple layers? I also have a question regarding this tutorial
http://www.jrn-works.dk/tutorials/chaoswarrior/armour.html
When he is doing washes, is he charging his brush, or wiping most of it off?
http://www.jrn-works.dk/tutorials/chaoswarrior/armour.html
When he is doing washes, is he charging his brush, or wiping most of it off?
Desertmerc
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Sorry for the double post, but I came up with another question. Currently I am trying to paint a warrior of chaos, I primed him black, and covered all his armor in boltgun metal. I really want to add a nice weather/Rusty/Grimy look, but I do not have any inks. Whats a good way to add those details without inks?
Desertmerc
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So, something like 10:1? I thought that was a wash, or do I have things backwards?
RuneBrush
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Only bit of advice I\'d give is to experiment and experiment lots. No two painters paint the same which is why this is a such a fantastic hobby. A prime is example is that both myself and my brother paint and despite reading the same magazines and articles we paint completely differently and our mini\'s are both of a reasonable standard.
Welcome to the hobby and enjoy it
Pete
Welcome to the hobby and enjoy it
Pete
