I thought It looked good

[Talion]

I always find it amusing when I paint a mini that I think looks good (in real life anyway)

I think to myself, I\'ll share this lovely miniature with others.......you put it up..........and it gets beaten to a pulp.

Kinda takes the wind out of your sail.

It makes me want go in a corner and cry........in fact...........(arrrgh curse these wretched hands for painting).....

Thats better thought I would share my thoughts.

Well to all you buggers who are mean :moon:

 

[Wolf_Fang]

im with ya on this one!

 

[Brokenblade]

Another bad thing, is when you paint something that you think looks fine, then you take a photo of it and ALL of the imperfections show up and any good parts are lost becausue of lighting/blur/whatever grrr.

 

[mrteal]

Originally posted by Brokenblade
Another bad thing, is when you paint something that you think looks fine, then you take a photo of it and ALL of the imperfections show up and any good parts are lost becausue of lighting/blur/whatever grrr.

Bah, your pics always seem to turn out great, besides your skills are undeniable. I just got a digi cam and I am so frustrated with my non-existent picture taking skills. Besides that, when I do get a semi decent pic I notice all the things wrong with it.

Back to reading the damn manual. :flame:

 

[supervike]

I hear ya! I have yet to get a decent pic of a mini, I know to say \"my mini\'s look better in real life\" but it seems to be taken as a lame excuse...

Anyhow, I understand exactly what you are saying BUT...take the ratings and the scores with a BIG grain of salt. In the end, if you are pleased with them, then thats all that really matters.

 

[Itchy]

Exactly Vikie... i\'ll NEVER get any kind of Deamon... but i still post. Maybe somebody will an idea i had on a mini and take it one step further and make one of those minis. One can hope at least lol

 

[Ogrebane]

Best thing about taking a pic is it does show up the imperfections. I paint better when Im going to post a pic cause I dont want people to see the undercoat that I forgot to paint. I take heaps of pics now just to see if I missed anything. I cant say my photo skills are any good yet but Im making progress there too.
I would like to be good enough to enter a GD one day so I take advice no matter how its worded when I can get it. But you have to remeber CMON is not all about painting. Alot of people only vote high on minis they like so if your going for score you have to pick the minis most people like. Me I post for the painting advice.

 

[Shawn R. L.]

Having had much problems with photographing my mini\'s I try to go easy on someone whose photo\'s are lacking. Also, if some mini dosent look so good to me, I either withold comment or try to give an encouragement.

 

[Rhode]

I\'m so with you Talion, many times when im painting i just think how friggin\' good my work looks. It truly takes the wind out of my sails when people give harsh comments.

Better pictures = better grades, it doesnt make your rank much better, but i believe i can say that worse painted mini w/ good photo gets better grades than a little better painted w/ worse pictures, its understandable but frustrating when you cant get the pic\'s work.

I feel really good when someone sends me a PM asking how i did something. lol

Keep on painting!

 

[tzor]

The ups and downs of CMON.

1) Paint mini
2) Fall in love with mini
3) Photograph mini poorly
4) Have community tear mini to shreads

After a period of depression return to CMON. Discover your old mini. Scream at the monitor about how such an awful mini could ever get the ranking it currently has.

5) learn to paint better
6) learn to photograph better

Lather, rinse and repeat.

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally by Rhode

It truly takes the wind out of my sails when people give harsh comments.

The trick is to make harsh comments kindly and offer helpful suggestions.
Getting a kick in the \'tender bits\' with comments like \"It sucks...give up and try something else.\" is purely rude.
I try to make helpful comments and follow them up with suggestions should anyone come back with a reply.

So far it seems to work I\'ve never had someone come back and tell me to Foxtrot Romeo Oscar.

Besides I\'ve been lucky and learnt a lot from here and have improved a little, but I still feel that I have a way to go yet.

 

[Talion]

Besides I\'ve been lucky and learnt a lot from here and have improved a little, but I still feel that I have a way to go yet.

I agree totally, I\'ve been painting for phew forever it seems, and every time I pick up the paint brush, I try something new.
I may buy a new colour paint and try adding that to an existing method, and (bang) your mini\'s look better. You never stop learning just improving.

Only once you\'ve had a go at every possible method, and are able to change the method througout each mini, will you become a true master. (sheesh I sound like yoda).

\"My minis paint, I will\"

 

[Ikaponthus]

Yeah I hear you. I thought most of mine on CMON are 7s, but they\'re all averaging 6-something.

I think the one I am doing now is by far my best ever. I think it\'s an 8.5 so far So if it averages above 7.5, I\'ll be happy.

 

[supervike]

\'buy the buy\'

Something that occured to me...

In my quest to have a nicely painted mini...


First, maybe it was the paint. Buy better paint.

Then, maybe I wasn\'t thinning enough. Tap water isn\'t good enough...buy distilled water. Distilled water doesn\'t work, buy Future Floor wax, still not helping, buy a flow improver. Maybe its the brushes, buy better brushes. Maybe is the mini? Buy better detailed mini. Maybe its the lighting, buy better lighting. Maybe its the camera...buy better camera. Buy a diffusion screen. Buy a photoshop program.

BTW don\'t look much better than before.

Buy a commissioned mini from some of the artists here....

oh thats better.

lollol

 

[atacam]

I too know what you mean, I have thought my minis deserved a little higher, but hey, that the way the cookie crumbles. Dont forget(dare I bring it up) the snipers. jeleous people with nothing better to do, or rivals of yours who may mark down purposely.

The rule I go by on here, is. Unless you are part of a clique group, sorry but I have found CMON to be like this, and I have been around here for a long time now. or are thick skined dont post minis on here expecting high score.

I personally crave the comments, people like the ones that have already posted have been a help in the past in getting me past certain barriers.

If a mini you have posted is getting ignored, or abusive/bad comment, link it on here and ask for help where you may improve, and said people will chip in for you.

 

[EricJ]

When I\'m painting, I don\'t trust my eyes. Usually throughout the painting process I take many many photos so I can see those inperfections early rather than later once I\'m mentally worn out or done with a figure. It\'s become part of my painting process.

To some degree I think it will hurt me when I get to Live competitions, since I\'ve taken so much time learning to paint for a camera, sometimes I think I\'ve forgoten how to paint for any other audience.

As harsh comments, take them for what it\'s worth. Usually it\'s not any sort of expert who understands really what their criticising, but rather taking a first impressing and going from there without much thought. Usually, I think if someone is really trying to help, they\'ll work to differentiate different problem areas and explain just what isn\'t working for them.

 

[Naukhel]

I have the same problem. One of these days, I\'ll manage to set up a diffusion box for my pictures to look a bit better.

Meantime, I take satisfaction in my work as I see it in reality, as opposed to in the pictures, and try to fix things that are commented on.

 

[Brokenblade]

I think it is this reason that sometimes the best feedback comes from friends or family who can see the work up close and real, critisism from the internet should sometimes be taken with a pinch of salt since people really can\'t see it as it really is (most of the time anyway).

 

[Galante]

Well, I see CMON as a place where I can share what I did, and see the work of other people.
Sure, it\'s nice when you get a great score on one of your minis, but the greatest satisfaction to me is to look at them in flesh from time to time and to feel that satisfaction that comes from knowing that I did my best and am happy with the result.

 

[airhead]

These comments that you are talking about must not be posted with the minis. I just went and read all your comments and didn\'t see anything that was killer.

The big difference between CMON and several other sites I belong to is that there you get
\"wow\",
\"very good\", or even
\"great\".

But here you get:
\"make the hair highlights pop a bit more\"
\"Make sure the eyes are looking in the same direction\"
\"I wouldn\'t have put those two colors together.\"

CMON harsher? yes. lead to improvement? yes. Are the \'other\' sites helpful for you to improve as a painter? no.

But as mentioned earlier - the \"you stink\" kind of comments are not helpful to anybody and besides, I used my deoderant this morning.

Yea, all of my minis are 10\'s until I take a pic of them and post them on CMON....

Somewhere I have a thread about someone stealing my pics and substituting them with minis painted by a 3 year old with dull crayons. But that is my problem and the drugs are beginning to kick in....