I vow to vote higher

[Coyote]

I know people are always obsessed about low votes. I have a bad habit of voting low in the higher ranges because I start giving someone that should be a 10 a 9 (because I want 10 to be perfect), then give someone who\'s a 9 an 8. Then 8 is what I\'d give to the best I\'d see, so 6\'s and 7\'s for everyone else, who may have deserved an 8 or even 9.

I don\'t know why, but I\'m going to stop. Unfortunately it\'s only one vote per miniature and won\'t make much of a difference. In fact, you probably don\'t care. However, I can\'t read my other forum today and I\'ve already beat the nudity horse a bit too much.

 

[Corvus]

I\'m an active member of CMON for over a year now, and I have noticed that a mini that would have scored an 8 1.5 years ago, now only scores a 7. I think this is because more and more amazing stuff keeps appearing...

 

[barkel]

Liberty and 8\'s for all!

I almost never go below a 5. You have to really have taken a bad picture or just dipped the mini in chocolate before I\'ll rate lower than a 5.

I give out 10s from time to time. If I think the painter did the best job, or even one of the best jobs, that could be done with that particular mini, I\'ll give him/her a 10.

barkel

 

[dauber22]

I believe the only thing I\'ve ever voted lower than a 4 is the infamous \"Left Talon of Rok\". Actually though, I rarely vote lower than a 4.5. I\'ve give out 10\'s sparingly, but occassionally. More commonly I\'l give a 9.5 (I double vote on lots of things to broaden the possible range).
I consider 8 to 8.5 about the highest you can get from me on technique alone. To get higher, it involves such things as \"wow\", \"cool\", and \"Holy S*^t!\"

 

[DennisMech]

I actualy like the harsher voting climate.

It makes better use of the scale. I no longer follow the \"5 is table top quality\" by that mark there would be a huge even plane of minis around the same score, when their paint jobs are still very varied. The harsher scale better reflects the actual mini. I\'m not voting lower on everything, but I\'m not giving the automatic \"it would look fine from several feet away\" points.

 

[Coyote]

I agree with you there. I\'ll give below 5 for technically table topquality just because I look at it and go \"Ugh, that\'s ugly.\"
Colour choice is important people.

 

[No Such Agency]

\"Left Talon of Roc\" is hilarious!. And by vincegamer no less. And it\'s not even the lowest-ranked mini on the site... (probably because of all the people who laughed so hard they gave it a 10)

 

[Corvus]

I have also noticed a lot of people reward bad paintjobs with high points because of the humour

I really love the comment on the talon: \"
this is a very old piece and I don\'t know who made it\" :bouncy:

 

[Trevor]

The talon was comedy gold.

My voting range is pretty much 4-10. And I\'m an anti-sniper.

 

[Dragonsreach]

I must admit to being a very selective voter, as I prefer to vote and leave a comment. However I\'ve found that on the ones I wish to comment on, there are often so many other comments already that I cannot add something of value.
But I have only ever once given a 1 and that was for Rab\'s attempt to be the lowest scoreing mini. Mostly I rate in the 4-10 range and try to always comment (whern possible!)
My most recent post Aragorn (1970\'s Vintage) Is doing far better than it should. I posted it as a 2 as that is how I rated it. However I seem to have hit a chord with people as it\'s getting better comments and scores than It deserves. :wow:
I also dislike low score snipers. (I was taught to be one of the other kind!)

 

[SaintRigger]

I usually vote high, and I give out lots of 10\'s for figures that I feel deserve it.

I also, like a lot of you, very rarely give out under a 5.

 

[Chrispy]

I think another thing is people should try and think before they give their own score before submitting. I know some people just give their stuff a 10 and hope it will do well, but I don\'t even give myself a 9, and I stay around 7-8. Once I saw someone with a mini that looked about 6 and he started off with a 4.. I mean, do you really think it\'s that bad? Well, since you painted it you know where all the flaws are, I guess..

 

[Mengu]

Here is my voting scale, and I try to adhere to it as best I can.

1-2: Reserved for the worst of pictures and paint jobs.
3: Very sloppy, globs of paint, metal showing, etc.
4: Flat look, no highlights, not exactly painted within the lines, bad color choice.
5: Painted within the lines. Doesn\'t need highlights, but paint should be even. Thick paint can knock it down to a 4.
6: Some shades and highlights. All the detail picked out. Decent to good face. Askew eyes or odd looking face can knock it down to 5.
7: Smooth and clean brushwork. Decent blending. Good use of black/brown lines. Good color choices.
8: Good blending. Some good and clean free hand trims, or detail. Large areas of clean detail will bump it up to 9.
10: Flawless work. Outstanding mini. Good color choice. If I don\'t like something about the mini or color choice (eventhough the execution is impressive), it goes down to 9.

You noticed I skipped 9. Seems like my 9\'s are good 8\'s or 10\'s that just don\'t look quite right..

Conversion work, and creatitvity, or a well executed piece on a mini, or an outstanding base will increase the score by 1.

I also have a softer spot for certain sculpts so they may get half a grade higher from me when I\'m in doubt. However an inspiring paint job on an unsinpiring mini will do the same thing.

I can take points off for bad pictures too (someone will kill me for this). With so many articles about taking pictures with digital cameras, I expect to see a clean, sharp, and light picture regardless of the paintjob. Doesn\'t have to be a pro job, but there is no reason to post extremely blurry or very dark pictures...

I find my votes usually don\'t deviate much from the average it is getting. Sometimes a 6.x may get an 8 from me, or a 7.x may get a 6. I seem to usually be on the higher end though. I do wish the scale was better utilized. With 1 being \"needs more work\", 2 being \"tabletop quality\" and 10 being \"godly\", I think we would see a better spread.

 

[dauber22]

Originally posted by Mengu
I do wish the scale was better utilized. With 1 being \"needs more work\", 2 being \"tabletop quality\" and 10 being \"godly\", I think we would see a better spread.

You know, I think that\'s one of the things that bugs me about using an \"expanded scale\". It\'s all well and good for people to say \"well I use an expanded scale where 2 = table top quality.\" The problem is, the words underneath the score won\'t say \"table top quality\" they\'ll say \"not good\". After all, numbers are just, well, numbers and a very abstract quality. If it were just that and everyone agreed to use 2=tabletop then fine. I guess if we\'re going to shift the scale I\'d like to see the labels changed or omitted.

 

[vincegamer]

Dragonsreach:
Could you point us to Rab\'s attempt to be the lowest scored mini? As you see, I failed in my attempt. I should not have used the macro....

Anyway, as to the scale, it was set up before there were any pictures here. I think Chern thought people would post EVERYTHING and not just the good stuff. Time has shown that people don\'t often post their junk pieces so perhaps it is time to \"re-label\" the scale.

 

[LouisCypher]

Originally posted by Mengu
Here is my voting scale, and I try to adhere to it as best I can.

1-2: Reserved for the worst of pictures and paint jobs.
3: Very sloppy, globs of paint, metal showing, etc.
4: Flat look, no highlights, not exactly painted within the lines, bad color choice.
5: Painted within the lines. Doesn\'t need highlights, but paint should be even. Thick paint can knock it down to a 4.
6: Some shades and highlights. All the detail picked out. Decent to good face. Askew eyes or odd looking face can knock it down to 5.
7: Smooth and clean brushwork. Decent blending. Good use of black/brown lines. Good color choices.
8: Good blending. Some good and clean free hand trims, or detail. Large areas of clean detail will bump it up to 9.
10: Flawless work. Outstanding mini. Good color choice. If I don\'t like something about the mini or color choice (eventhough the execution is impressive), it goes down to 9.

You noticed I skipped 9. Seems like my 9\'s are good 8\'s or 10\'s that just don\'t look quite right..

Conversion work, and creatitvity, or a well executed piece on a mini, or an outstanding base will increase the score by 1.

i agree, and i generally subtract 1 point if the model is not based.

i do appreciate minis to be commented by their author, so they can explain some details or something like that

Cheers =)
Luca

 

[farseerlum]

well i\'ve handed out 5 tens tonite.

unbelievably none of them scored over nine. 8.6. 8.7 the highest.

something definatley is wrong here.

 

[Dragonsreach]

VINCEGAMER: As requested.

Rab\'s Green Butt Striped Horse

I\'m trying to keep up with the (Helpful) comment a day, posting on mini\'s but what a swine at times!

 

[finn17]

Hmmm....

Originally posted by farseerlum
unbelievably none of them scored over nine. 8.6. 8.7 the highest.

something definatley is wrong here.

It\'s only unbelievable if everyone was expected to have the same value system, aethetics, taste etc as you do.
You only have to look at the utter sh1t some people choose to hang on their walls etc to see that people\'s tastes do differ.

*EDIT* VINCEGAMER: As requested.

Rab\'s Green Butt Striped Horse

That\'s not fair!!! \'Left talon of Roc\' is much worse than that. Vince, you are being short-changed here

 

[vincegamer]

Thanks Finn, I agree.
Why even without a title I could tell his was an elf on a horse! It\'s even blond.
Alas, he and I both suffer from \"too well focused picture\" syndrom. Although his is slightly blurry.
:bouncy: