Idea\'s needed for painting a better IG Sentinel

[TheMiniatureWorkshop]

Hi,

Below are some pics of a sentinel I painted a few weeks ago, I am planning on painting a new one but want to make it better than my previous effort (I\'m aiming for a cmon score of 8 or above ).

Can you guys give me some ideas for how to paint the new one (colours etc..) and also some ideas on the pose or base (I would like to keep it on a standard sized base) any critism\'s you have on the old one would also be appreciated.

Here\'s the pics of the old one:

Cheers

Rich

 

[.sam.]

how about a battle worn weathered one instead of the clean style one in the pic

 

[TheMiniatureWorkshop]

I was thinking about adding quite a bit of damage and weathering but I am worried about it overpowering the mini as the sentinel is rather weedy looking.

 

[generulpoleaxe]

small chips and scrapes where the areas will be prone to getting used a lot (pilot getting in and out, maintenace crews standing on etc)
legs where it has walked through underbrush.

don\'t use lichen mate, for small scrub use clump foliage with tiny leaves attached, or even better (but more fragile) seafoam.

 

[Einion]

Okay, on your current one, overall it\'s a good, decent version. Higher tabletop quality IMO - I\'d think fair votes would leave it at mid-6 or a little higher.

My advice would just be to generally refine your painting, to make it look more intricate and detailed, more subtlety. This means slowing down, using thinner paint and working in stages (lots of them). If this took you four hours expect to go to eight, then 12 and 15.

Techniques to look at:
panel variation;
preshading;
\'filters\' (glazes);
scratching/chipping;
oil, rust and other stains;
dust pooling - dust settles around detail so recesses are often lighter, not darker;
varied or staged \'road weathering\' with airbrushed mist coats plus pastels or pigment powders;
mud caking;
metallic edge wear;
subtle usage damage (a little beyond painted scratches and chips - bent panels, physical scrapes in the metal);
battle damage (shot craters & gouges, missing parts).

Better articles on armour modelling in the mags would be a good place to look for detailed tips and guides on these sorts of techniques. AFV Modeller might be the best, but all of the general modelling are worth a look for the occasional gem (can\'t remember which titles are best off the top of my head, sorry).

See this thread for a book recommendation if you want to take your weathering to the upper level. Weathering, dirtying up and damage should be done with reference to real vehicles as much as possible, then replicated in intricate detail in stages.

Now before you look at this kind of thing though you need to spend more time on build! The gun barrel needs to be drilled out; this is a really basic step that\'s one of the first things taught in armour circles. Also, pay more attention to filling joins; nothing cries noob as much as visible joints or mould lines on a painted miniature

Oh and the rods in the lower legs should be clean as the reciprocating action keeps them that way.

Einion

 

[TheMiniatureWorkshop]

Thanks for taking the time to reply guys I really appreciate the advice, it looks like i\'ve got quite a bit of learning to do before I retry this model.

 

[.sam.]

if you are going to do a weathered version i highly recommend you buy the fw masterclass book. A must have for weathering it will tell you everything you need to know about weathering. well worth the money

 

[TheMiniatureWorkshop]

Can you only get the fw masterclass direct from the forgeworld website or is it available cheaper elsewhere ?

 

[.sam.]

you can buy it in gw stores as fw technically is gw but is the same price but you wont be paying postage etc if you get it from gw store.


as for cheaper places the only thing i can think of is maybe looking on ebay and sights like that

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by .sam.
if you are going to do a weathered version i highly recommend you buy the fw masterclass book. A must have for weathering it will tell you everything you need to know about weathering. well worth the money

Bah, you can get a lot better than that. If fairly generic, formulaic weathering is the aim then it\'s fine, but the state of the art is way beyond this.

Rich, you can have a look at it here (four pages):
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/iamm.htm

Einion

 

[Dragonsreach]

Originally posted by Einion

Originally posted by .sam.
if you are going to do a weathered version i highly recommend you buy the fw masterclass book. A must have for weathering it will tell you everything you need to know about weathering. well worth the money

Bah, you can get a lot better than that. If fairly generic, formulaic weathering is the aim then it\'s okay, but the state of the art is way beyond this.

Einion

I have to agree with you Einion, there are better books, but for someone who\'s knowledge base of the hobby is grounded around GW products its a great start along the way to \"true\" modelling techniques.

Having said that I have no doubt that given the amount of experience and knowledge that exists within the visitors to this forum a superb techniques book could be written.