Is there life out there?

[matty1001]

Take a look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4977134.stm

The video on that page is interesting aswell.

Iv always believed there was/is something out there. Not sure whether to believe all this. But it certainly puts a spin on things.

 

[Arkzein]

Well he is heading out to the states after all now. Personally? I think he\'s a crank, perhaps trying to muddy the waters just to get the focus off what he did and onto something else, namely what he was looking for.

However as for the supressing of technology, more inclined to believe that is possible, look at the electric car/corn & ethanol situation. Not to sure on the ability to completely hide it from the public though, unless extremely new, someone else somewhere will come up with the same thing.

Still, not things I worry too much about anyway. *shrug*

 

[Evil Bones]

of course there are things out there......
JUST LOOK AT CMON

there are orks,goblins,tau,eldar,kroot,space marines & of course BUGS!!

really though i believe there is life out there....we cannot be just one big ooppss
in these galaxies of millions.

just have to wait for them to land in our front yards.
ltrs

 

[lono]

SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.
GM: No, the graphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It\'s a Java application, so there\'s nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.
SK: So did you get the one frame?
GM: No.
SK: What happened?
GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.
SK: You were actually cut off the time you were downloading the picture?
GM: Yes, I saw the guy\'s hand move across.


He can hack into Nasa computers, but he can\'t use Print Screen or take a photo of his monitor? Riiight!

 

[matty1001]

If you watch the interview he explains why he didn\'t do that.

 

[lono]

He gives an explanation for why a stupid person who just accidentally stumbled on something like that wouldn\'t have a method by which they could save it.

He doesn\'t however explain how someone who found exactly what they had been searching for for years didn\'t instantly save it.

He also gives off the kind of tells in his speech and body language that would show me, if we were playing poker, that he was bluffing!

 

[matty1001]

Originally posted by lono
He gives an explanation for why a stupid person who just accidentally stumbled on something like that wouldn\'t have a method by which they could save it.

And perhaps thats all he was, a stupid person just messing about, not looking for anything in particular, but happened to stumbe across something that interested him.

 

[lono]

But that\'s not what he claims to have been is it? Either the part about his discovery of the image is bull, or he is lying about his noble motives in an attempt to justify his hacking.

Either way it doesn\'t add that much credibility to what he is saying!

 

[supervike]

I always have to look at something like this with a big helping of doubt....Especially when he can make the claims but cannot back anything up. He sounds believable and convincing, but he couldn\'t get one shred of evidence?

 

[Ogrebane]

I hate to do this but..... I have to agree with Vike. If you are going to make claims then you need hard evidence. How could he let the one pic he got slip away from him.

 

[farseerlum]

i reckon if he had hard evidence he wouldn\'t be going to trial he\'d be going to the morgue.

i wouldn\'t keep any incriminating evidence of that sort around me.

 

[freakinacage]

Originally posted by farseerlum
i reckon if he had hard evidence he wouldn\'t be going to trial he\'d be going to the morgue.

i wouldn\'t keep any incriminating evidence of that sort around me.

agreed

the second he mentioned \'free energy\' he lost credibility for me

 

[Mosch]

SK: So you\'re saying that you found computers which had a high-ranking status, administrator status, which hadn\'t had their passwords set - they were still set to default?

GM: Yes, precisely.

Of course. That makes perfect sense.

SK: So you would log on in the middle of the night, say?

GM: Yes, I\'d always be juggling different time zones. Doing it at night time there\'s hopefully not many people around. But there was one occasion when a network engineer saw me and actually questioned me and we actually talked to each other via WordPad, which was very, very strange.

\"Say, my fellow network security professional, I declare there\'s an unknown IP in this log! And I reckon it\'s been logging on here the last couple of months.\" - \"That surely is Military Computer Security; after all who else should be compelled to even think about these top secret hard drives we so weakly protect?\"

GM: One of these people was a Nasa photographic expert, and she said that in building eight of Johnson Space Centre they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. What she said was there was there: there were folders called \"filtered\" and \"unfiltered\", \"processed\" and \"raw\", something like that.

I got one picture out of the folder, and bearing in mind this is a 56k dial-up, so a very slow internet connection, in dial-up days, using the remote control programme I turned the colour down to 4bit colour and the screen resolution really, really low, and even then the picture was still juddering as it came onto the screen.

But what came on to the screen was amazing. It was a culmination of all my efforts. It was a picture of something that definitely wasn\'t man-made.

It was above the Earth\'s hemisphere. It kind of looked like a satellite. It was cigar-shaped and had geodesic domes above, below, to the left, the right and both ends of it, and although it was a low-resolution picture it was very close up.

This thing was hanging in space, the earth\'s hemisphere visible below it, and no rivets, no seams, none of the stuff associated with normal man-made manufacturing.

Yeah, how about some phrasings that you hope an average person would not understand? On the other hand he can definitely state that there were no rivets or welding seams on an object in a picture he deliberately shrunk in resolution so maybe I\'m unfair.

SK: Is it possible this is an artist\'s impression?

GM: I don\'t know... For me, it was more than a coincidence. This woman has said: \"This is what happens, in this building, in this space centre\". I went into that building, that space centre, and saw exactly that.

I don\'t even get that. Does he claim he has seen with his own two eyes how UFOs have been erased from pictures? How did he get in there?

SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.

GM: No, the graphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It\'s a Java application, so there\'s nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.

I thought it was only pictures? How many frames can a non-moving have? (Hint: The answer is \"one\")
Also, graphical remote viewer in Java? Does he claim he use a program on their machine? Then why didn\'t he grab the program; while not conclusively proving anything it would at least be something...

SK: What happened?

GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.

Computers don\'t work this way. Also, if he had part of the picture, he could reproduce at least, well, a part of the picture.

SK: You were actually cut off the time you were downloading the picture?

GM: Yes, I saw the guy\'s hand move across.

HE was unnoticed for several years and got cut off in the only ONE, SINGLE CRUCIAL MOMENT?
That\'s... that\'s fantastic.


I have also just started the interview. Look how tense he is.
Seriously, I see no reason to believe ANY of this.