Juicing metal

[hestan101]

hi all
I finaly managed to get a day\'s solid painting in yesterday i was trying to paint metal using glazes in automaton\'s style. it was ork metal so i based coated it boltgun, shaded it with browns (vermin, bestial, scorched and black) and it looked fairly passable. i then attempted to highlight it.

i mixed up some chainmail and boltgun with water until i could see the particles floating around, and wiping some off my brush, then applied it in the desired highlight spots. what i got was sporadicly placed particles tht ruined the effect and had no solid colour.

how do i highlight glzed metals? how do i thin with getting the patricles all over the model? what am i doing wrong?
thanks, max

 

[generulpoleaxe]

you probably had the metal glaze too thin mate. just try different consistancies until you find what works for you.

you may find it easier to highlight before colour tiniting and shading, just try different aproaches mate, different things suit different painters.
The same results can be achieved by doing things in slightly different orders, yet using the same techniques! confusing aint it.

 

[sg2009]

when you highlight with juicing your highlights dont have to be as thin as when you shade it because its just harder to paint light colours on top of dark.

still thin your highlights down but not as much and paint your highlights and go back and glaze the highlights with what ever colours to make the highlights blend in.

and if that doesnt help try using your 2nd to last highlight as your basecoat then shade as normal then all you have to do is your very last highlight.

does this help


sam

 

[matty1001]

I tend to start by basecoating with Mithril silver, then glazing down towards black leaving the brightest parts showing.

Then a small amount of thinned Metallic medium on the brightest spots.

I never quite got the hang of highlighting metals either.

Peace and love...

 

[Aliengod3]

When you highlight with metallics you do not want the metallics as dilute as with paint. If you have it watered down until you have metal flakes that is way too dilute. Try 3:1, water:metal. That is what I use and the results look great and smooth.

 

[Trevor]

I agree, dilute them less. Also, wipe your brush on a tissue after dipping it in the paint, this will take more water off than paint and leave you with just a little metallic, takes a bit of practise to get the hang of, but works well (its what Automaton does).
Try using vallejo model air metallics, they are dilute to start with and can be diluted more without losing their \'structure\'.
Also if you have darkened from boltgun, you highlights can start at boltgun, and go up to mithril.
If you look at some of the heavy metal work, they darken the metyals and then edge line with metallic, it a bit harsher, but looks good.

 

[bullfrog]

I find that when highlighting metals the best consistency for me is the same that I use when basecoating.
To find the same consistency first time around add brushtips of water to your metallic paint one at a time until the consistency of the paint \"turns\" from being gloopy right out of the pot to a more fluid watery form. It is hard for me to describe but when the paint loses it\'s body and becomes a self leveling pool of paint you will know what I mean.

At this stage you can basecoat very smoothly and also use the same paint to highlight nice crisp edges.

Don\'t despair if you make your metallic paint you use for the basecoat too watery and the metallic flakes seperate. It is perfect for fixing up any blemishes.
Take a liberal amount on your brush and wash it over your basecoat.
The metallic flakes will settle in any pock marks or shallow areas and the water will evaporate leaving you detail still showing nicely.I find that this method has not failed me once and can make the surface almost mirror smooth.