Ebonbuddha
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birth control. :no:
Ladies and gentlemen I proudly present...
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Roger Bunting
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That looks like the German version os Supernanny. That kid is not the worst I\'ve seen.
Ebonbuddha
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WHAT?!?!? 
Roger Bunting
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Ok, I\'ve been looking at some other clips of that kid, and he is one of the worst; but there are plenty more like him, hitting, kicking, biting, spitting etc.
vincegamer
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In one episode of Supernanny, a kid threw a brick at her.
Roger Bunting
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You don\'t like a strict woman then?
freakinacage
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nothing a severe beating won\'t stop
Godlikebuthumble
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That one\'s been around for a while. Sorry, but if I had just say, visited that family for the first time, and the kid tried that crap on me... dead kid. I shit you not. But then, one has to be pretty srewed up to let things go that far downhill.
Thunderhawker
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Oh the world we live in now. When I was a kid, I would have woken up wondering what had happened, and would never EVER do whatever it was again.
That is the perfect example of political correctness destroying humanity. Somebody beat that child, PLEASE!
That is the perfect example of political correctness destroying humanity. Somebody beat that child, PLEASE!
Torn blue sky
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that kid called his mum a whore
I\'d kill the little bastard lol
I\'d kill the little bastard lol
lizcam
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I\'m not a big one for taking kids away from parents for many reasonbs, but to allow a child to get that bad is bordering on child abuse (even tho it looks like parent abuse). By the time the kid is as old as that one there\'s really very little hope of rehabilitation and IT\'S THE PARENTS FAULT! I don\'t feel sorry for them at all!
Ebonbuddha
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I have to agree with you. If I had a child (heaven forbid) and he turned out like that, I wouldn\'t know what to do with him. I think it is a good idea to take him away.
I could spank him. But I\'m a pretty strong guy. If I hit him I would probably break him. Or knock him into the next county.
I could spank him. But I\'m a pretty strong guy. If I hit him I would probably break him. Or knock him into the next county.
demonherald
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It\'s worrying how the PC world is turning out more and more extreme cases like that....
My terrible two\'s little lad went through (and still does occasionally) a tantrum stage now all he needs is the words do you want red hands??? and he knows that he is crossing the line....I haven\'t abused mentally tortured or bullied my son just taught him there are boundaries and being good has it\'s rewards being bad has it\'s punishments......I just worry that the work I do with him at home will get spoiled when he goes to school when the poor defensless teachers have to put up and shut up to the abuse they receive....
My terrible two\'s little lad went through (and still does occasionally) a tantrum stage now all he needs is the words do you want red hands??? and he knows that he is crossing the line....I haven\'t abused mentally tortured or bullied my son just taught him there are boundaries and being good has it\'s rewards being bad has it\'s punishments......I just worry that the work I do with him at home will get spoiled when he goes to school when the poor defensless teachers have to put up and shut up to the abuse they receive....
Avelorn
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There are syndroms you know.. good luck beating that out of a kid.
You can set boundaries without resorting to violence, if you stick to it. If you do not get respect without slapping the kid.. well what does that say about your role as a parent? The risk is that you only fight the symptoms and not the cause.. and you get kids that might behave in your presence but are a nausea once you turn your eyes away.
Group-pressure and conformity is way stronger forces in building character than threats of violence.
That said, I think some parents misunderstand their role as parents and becaomse too much of a friend sometimes. There has to be boundaries and respect. I bacome very very irritated with parents who defend their kids and badmouth their teachers infront of them. There has to be a unified front. I think it has to do that a misbehaving kid is seen as only the parents fault.. and therefor they see it as a huge personal failure if they would admit it. The stigma is huge.
I think it\'s time to realise that there are no such thing as a perfect parent. Sometimes we will all get into situations that will be very difficult or almost impossible to handle. Many parents must for example have several part-time jobs to support the family etc. There is always a story behind.. it\'s never that easy.
You can set boundaries without resorting to violence, if you stick to it. If you do not get respect without slapping the kid.. well what does that say about your role as a parent? The risk is that you only fight the symptoms and not the cause.. and you get kids that might behave in your presence but are a nausea once you turn your eyes away.
Group-pressure and conformity is way stronger forces in building character than threats of violence.
That said, I think some parents misunderstand their role as parents and becaomse too much of a friend sometimes. There has to be boundaries and respect. I bacome very very irritated with parents who defend their kids and badmouth their teachers infront of them. There has to be a unified front. I think it has to do that a misbehaving kid is seen as only the parents fault.. and therefor they see it as a huge personal failure if they would admit it. The stigma is huge.
I think it\'s time to realise that there are no such thing as a perfect parent. Sometimes we will all get into situations that will be very difficult or almost impossible to handle. Many parents must for example have several part-time jobs to support the family etc. There is always a story behind.. it\'s never that easy.
Thunderhawker
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Avelorn said:
Ladies and gentlemen, I present a kid who turned out okay but was never beaten (good for you) or A kid who was abused (Sorry). (And just joking ya BTW)
As far as the line \"Beat that child\" - It sounds extreme, but corporal punishment has worked on this planet for more generations than I can count . It is only in this current generation that human animals have gone to the soft, tree-hugging, whiners that scream \"never touch a child\". This is a load garbage. I am in no way advocating the abuse of children. There is a line between discipline and abuse, and it is fairly clear. Also, depending on the offence, corporal punishment should never be the first option (if the kid is holding a knife, knock him out).
I know all too well about disorders and syndromes, and have no need to be lectured on that front. My sister is a teacher for the learning disabled at an elemtary school and has been for 25 years, my nephew is emotionally disturbed (after being abused by his half-brother), and my son was diagnosed at a very young age with extreme AD/HD. So I am aware of these things. But I am also aware that ADHD is the most overdiagnosed and misdiagnosed condition in kids in the US today. We are a generation who teaches and controls their kids by drugging them, not guiding and disciplining them and that has to change or we are doomed as a species.
The strongest survive, not the gentlest.
Avelorn
Sven Jonsson
I was never beaten or slapped or abused in any way.. and if I turned out okay.. well...? lol Corporal punishment has been forbidden in Sweden since 1979.
Has corporal punishment really worked? Are there really any positive effects of it? You have actually not provided an argument for its use yet. But that\'s no surprise as I haven\'t read any articles providing such arguments other then \"it has worked for generations\" But has it really? No scientific article I have read has given any pros that are even in the same league as the cons. It wouldn\'t either fit all that well in the framework of most theories on how children develops.
Now I\'m not appalled by someone getting a little spank on the bum, but I don\'t think it should be allowed non-the-less. The border between slapping on the behind and physical abuse is not at all clear and for many people that border will be crossed. There is a firm link between corporal punishment and aggressivness, lack of moral internalisation, loss of parental-child relationship, mental disorders and the list goes on...
Even if there are a majority of responsible parents the law will of course be misused. And is it worth all the cases of real physical abuse sticking to something you\'re not even sure of is actually a good way of disciplinating children? In Sweden the physical abuse of children fell dramatically during a period of time when the question was raised. Funny that it wasn\'t because of the law as one might think, but because of the general discussion and the increasing contempt for such acts. As I\'ve said group pressure, group sanctions is a very strong force. It also leads to a change of character, in other words, a moral internalisation that will affect not only what you do but how you reason and reflect about it too. And that is what we\'re after in kids too.. right?
Do you think that AD/HD can be mildered with spanking? Do you think people with bipolar disorder can be slapped out of their manic phases? Do you think that someone can mistake these disorders with a kid just misbehaving and being naughty?
As for your view of evolution and \"strongest will survive\" you have a common misconception. It is the \"fittest\" that will survive, not the strongest. We are born entirely incapable of taking care of ourselves, and that continues for several years.. and alone we would be weak. Caring, cooperation and looking out for each other is a major part of what has lead to our success as a specie.
