Martial Arts

RecoilStudios

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6 years japanese combat goju(still training)
5 years tu zahn kune do(sp?) kung fu
4 years jujitsu(still training)
2 years aikido(still training)


I fight on a team..fight to knock out or submission..i have 4 1 hit k.os to my record lots of trophies and so on..yay more stuff to clutter! and have been knocked out alot..countless sprains..countless black eyes..muscle pulls bumps bruises and all the good stuff...its alot of fun and teaches a good way of life try it out its great for ya.
 

Starfall

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Again I think it\'s good that nunchakus are banned in many countries... They can be a deadly weapon even in untrained hands for any enemy, but also a great risk to yourself.

Vince & Sebrushworth, sounds really exciting (but I also think it\'s most important in looks authentic). I\'ll look for some SCA event to watch (and perhaps to participate next time?).

Modderhu, call me a sissy, but I actually play Badminton... Though I\'m interested in Martial Arts and - more importantly - their philosophies very much (I think I\'d feel worse (hard to describe, you know what I mean) without them but I don\'t dare saying they\'re an important part of my life due to my respect towards those who visibly made it part of their life... I know some people who have developed an astonishing charisma and strong character by practising Budo very hard). The cause for starting this thread? I had a discussion a while ago with a guy who said Martial Arts were total crap and so on. But I love those Jet Li and jackie Chan and Lucy Liu and Zhang Ziyi and Michelle Yeoh and Chow Yun-Fat movies... And watching a good martial arts match is almost as cool as watching an action movie. Moreover I strongly appreciate - as said before - the philosophy of Budo. So when we were finished I thought about asking other people about their opinion (hence this thread was not only started for people actually practising but also for those - like me - mostly watching MA in movies or knowing them from books...).

I\'ve got some Judo experience (though 3 years of practise are almost nothing in Judo) but I didn\'t like it too much. I left the club when it got a new trainer. It was just physical education... The philosophic aspect was neglected too much.
 

Modderrhu

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Originally posted by Starfall
Modderhu, call me a sissy, but I actually play Badminton...
...

I\'ve got some Judo experience (though 3 years of practise are almost nothing in Judo) but I didn\'t like it too much. I left the club when it got a new trainer. It was just physical education... The philosophic aspect was neglected too much.
Nothing wrong with badminton, is there? Better to call you \"fit\" instead. :)

Hmmmm, Judo is really just an aspect of Jiu-jitsu, become more stylised to make it a competitive sport instead of a practical self-defense martial art. Judo has changed, and its background means less and less. Perhaps you\'d be more interested in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, or Wushu?

I must be honest, it\'s Wushu (Kung Fu) that holds my interest over Jiu-jitsu. I could never bring myself to really trust the Judo techniques, whereas Tai Chi Chuan makes more sense to me. And if it\'s philosophical background that you\'re interested in, then Wushu will be the way to go, with Taoism and Buddhism in the background.
 

vincegamer

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Originally posted by Starfall
And watching a good martial arts match is almost as cool as watching an action movie.
Well for spectator sports I highly recommend watching Capoeira.

I saw a demo a while back and while I honestly believe it is the only form of dancing that developed into a style of fighting, it is amazing to watch (though I kept wondering what would happen if they ever actually hit each other).
 

QuietiManes

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Wow, lots of martial artists around here.

I started the summer I turned 6 in a karate class, in highschool I took some judo and tae kwon do. By the end of highschool I was turned off. I guess I still have reservations about it. I dont think most people can handle themselves with it to be honest. Even with a decent teacher who\'ll tell the students not to beat up on people and that this doesnt make you superman, most people still think they\'re tough stuff. They dont realize a real fight is nothing like the scenarios in class, tournaments or on TV. I\'ve just seen too many people stand up when they should back down or be targetted because they\'re in a martial arts class. The usual \"why didnt you kick his ass?\" questions got on my nerves whenever I\'d walk away from a confrontation too.

That whole \"back off I know Tae Bo\" mentality is dangerous, I love the idea of \"womens defense\" classes but in reality they make me scared for the women that fight instead of run and scream for help. Same deal for the guys or gals that fight instead of giving the thief their wallet. Took me a while and a few fights to realize that throwing a punch and throwing a punch while scared out of your mind and being pounded in the face are two very different things, once I got that threw my head martial arts classes lost their appeal for me. But of course learning how to kill a man with your pinky isnt the only reason to take a class but that was what I wanted out of it. I mean for me personally, all the \"show\" was pointless and annoying. I didnt want to know how to dance around like a ballerina I wanted to know how to defend myself. I didnt care if my kick didnt \"look\" right, I cared how it felt to the recipient sort of thing.

Near the end of HS and for some time after I spent a few years reading books and practicing at home with my punching bags and dummies, boxing, kick-boxing, jeet kune do (a friend got into bruce lee and reading some of his books were the major inspiration to break off from classes and \"go it alone\") or whatever I could get my hands on. I had a few friends that were into the same things so that made it interesting and fun, we\'d spar and discuss techniques at length. The military combat tactics type books were very informative also IMO, less martial arts and more staying alive and being effective.


From what I\'ve heard, it\'s done by hitting the insides of one\'s wrists together to create microfractures, or something like that. Rather than actually snapping the bones. The repaired fractures make the bones far stronger. Whew!

Actually all martial artists, boxers, fighters do this, if not always intentionally. Every time you hit something, jump up and down, any jarring move really, breaks minor parts of your bones cell structure. When you heal, your body always over compensates and over heals basicly. If you break a bone it will have a bump around the fracture so it\'s both larger and more dense. Anyway, that\'s one reason a veteran boxer hits so much harder than the new guy who has the technique and strength to match the veteran. It\'s also part of the reason the veteran can take so much more pounding, his/her ribs, collar bone, spine, face/head etc etc are all that much stronger, thicker, denser from years of these minute break downs and repairs. Sounds extreme but it\'s not anymore painful or damaging than hitting a punching bag really. Well, it doesnt have to be at any rate, I\'ve no idea how hard they slam their wrists together in that Kung Fu class. When it was first said they break their wrists it made me grimmace.

*I\'ll second that phew this is a long post*

Injuries, luckily fairly few. Only really serious things was a couple \"boxers\" fractures in both hands, 3 times over the course of my life, or so I\'m told that\'s what it\'s called when you break off the knuckle of the bone under your pinky. Tore my anterior cruciate ligament in HS football too, but that\'s not too martial artsy I guess.

Darn, now I\'m all misty eyed because I\'m missing the good times in highschool and university. :(
 

vincegamer

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Okay, based on this last response I\'m guessing my quoting my sister went over everyone\'s heads.
(not surprising since you don\'t know my sister)

Tai Bo is not a martial art
It is a form of aerobics that uses some forms of motion similar to some martial arts.
in other words, it was a joke.
 

pitynoman

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I went to Tae Bo with an ex-girlfriend of mine. While physically it\'s not a bad workout.The moves teach you WRONG footwork for fighting.I practice Muay Thai,also known as Thai Boxing and I hate the fact that Billy ripped off an ancient/noble and deadly art to make money
 

Mr.S.Marbo

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Originally posted by Starfall
...I love those Jet Li and jackie Chan and Lucy Liu and Zhang Ziyi and Michelle Yeoh and Chow Yun-Fat movies... And watching a good martial arts match is almost as cool as watching an action movie. ... So when we were finished I thought about asking other people about their opinion (hence this thread was not only started for people actually practising but also for those - like me - mostly watching MA in movies or knowing them from books...).

I think most of those movies are great - just watch Crouching Tiger or Hero and you\'ll find it hard not to be at least a little impressed. I had heard that Zhang Ziyi for definite and possibly (although I could be wrong on this one) Michelle Yeoh have never actually had any formal martial arts training. So I have heard Zhang Ziyi is classically trained in ballet / dance and most of what she does in films are kind of adapted from dance type moves. This is perhaps why it appears kind of smooth and flowing and kind of artistic when she is \"fighting\" on film. Cool effect anyway.

I think if you learn a few of the martial arts properly not many/any(?) of them are there to teach you aggression (correct me if I am wrong). I have a friend who is the current Scottish Wrestling Champion (she better get me free tickets if she gets in the Commonweath Games hehe) and who also does Judo (black belt), Systema, and a couple of others I can\'t remember.... Anyway before I knew she did all this she would never have struck me as someone that did a lot of martial arts. I guess I kind of expected people who do MA to conform a bit to a kind of stereotype...
 

vincegamer

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Originally posted by Mr.S.Marbo
I had heard that Zhang Ziyi for definite and possibly (although I could be wrong on this one) Michelle Yeoh have never actually had any formal martial arts training.
Well, Jason Scott Lee never had any martial arts training before playing Bruce Lee in \"Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story.\"

Of course the film makers said that was a good thing because they could train him to fight like Bruce Lee.

(I never liked that the guy who finished \"Game of Death\" for Bruce Lee didn\'t actually fight like Lee. Even though he wore the helmet, it clearly wasn\'t Lee.
 

Ebonbuddha

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You should try to get work in Japan Tony. I have a couple of friends there who love it. A lot of people have left korea for Japan and say the people in Japan are more civil. I never had a problem there.
The food is pretty good. I can onkly tell you the name of two foods I ate there.One was egg (Okonomyaki) and another was cow tongue.

I joked about going there to see be a sumo until I saw real sumos. There is one guy name Akibono. He is a sumo and K-1 fighter. Lets say I am 180 kg and almost 200 cm tall. this guy is 213cm and 230 0r 240 kg. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH HIM?!?!??!?!
Thus my sumo dreams were dashed. :( lol


Originally posted by Tony Manero
yep ur sign motto is pretty common in all the world now because the founding japanese motto... i love japan culture and language... i studied it for 3 years but now most of kanji i learned are vanished away...

however.. i like kata figures cuz they are so cerimonial.... as the shooting in kyujutsu...
 

Ebonbuddha

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Yes Supervike. The Normans were notorious for their lactose intolerance despite their great love of dairy products. Its also rumored that the Saxons had several XX-large extra-cheese pizza sent to their camps the night before the big battles. lol

Originally posted by supervike

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It is a little known fact that the Saxon army was defeated by the Normans because of the gallons of milk they drank before hand. lol
 

Ebonbuddha

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I agree with Pitynoman. My first trip to Thailand I went to see Muay Thai. Its so beautiful. Especially the movements before the actual fight. I forgot the name. the last two trip I didn\'t get o go to any. LAst year was because of time. This year because my wife\'s obnoxious friends came and ruined the entire trip. :mad:


Originally posted by pitynoman
I went to Tae Bo with an ex-girlfriend of mine. While physically it\'s not a bad workout.The moves teach you WRONG footwork for fighting.I practice Muay Thai,also known as Thai Boxing and I hate the fact that Billy ripped off an ancient/noble and deadly art to make money
 

Ebonbuddha

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All of this talk about Martial arts has made me go and join the gym.When I was younger, I could lift a nice amount of weight. A few months ago I went and i was lifting;

bench press 80kg x 30 reps
incline press 60kg x 30 reps
butterfly 100kg x 30 reps
rear deltoid 80kg x 30 reps
Standing Cables 70kg x 30 reps
Lat pull machine 135kg x 30 reps
H.lat pull machine 125kg x 30 reps
leg extension 135kg x 30 reps
leg curl 115kg x 30 reps
leg press 480kg x 30 reps

The scary part? I have gotten weaker in my old age. I use to be stronger.:(
 

pitynoman

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I used to bench 450 lbs,squat 500 but after my back injury I am more into functional strength,like pull ups/chin ups.
I can do 34 on a good day.
 

Ebonbuddha

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34 pull ups? Nice. I thought I was good with my 350 lbs+ bench pressing when I was younger. Unfortunately, I got a screwed up metabolism because of the diabetes and I seem to gain weight like it was nothing. Life aint fair I tell you.
 

Starfall

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Vince, I got the point. My sister also used to do Tae Bo. No Martial Art, although it can be very exhausting.

Ebonbuddha, I\'ve already seen triple posts, but five at once? Not bad!
 

Ebonbuddha

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Yep. Five in a row. I finish a thought. Then come back ten or twenty minutes later. IF I added them through edits it would be really long and annoying.
 
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