Maybe I should just give up on water........

lizcam

New member
I\'m working on a basefor a comp for Ebay that I had planned on tweaking for GDLA but I\'ve mucked it up. It\'s the water YET AGAIN! No yellow urine water this time. I\'m doing a stream and was using the GW liquid stuff you have to pour in layers. It was all going well but this last layer?........................take a look



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Cloudy. I\'ve let it set for 3 days hoping it would clear but nothing. If anything it\'s worse than it was.

Is there any cure for this or do I have to scrap the whole base and start over? Damn water! :flame: :cussing: :evil: :mad:
 

Jericho

Consummate Brushlicker
How thick were the layers you were using? This stuff does have a nasty tendency to turn blue/white if you put it on thick, or do layers too close together. I\'ve seen it happen before I\'m afraid :( I don\'t know if there\'s much of anything you can do about it. It\'s a shame too, that\'s a nice little scene.
 

lizcam

New member
It\'s supposed to be farmer Maggot\'s farm. The top of the hill will/would have an apple tree on it that an old GW mini of two hobbits, one on the other\'s shoulder\'s would be stealing apples from. Farmer Maggot would be in the field in the bck shaking his tool ;) and his dogs would be reacting to the theives and a hobbit scooting backward on the path up the hill. I can re-do it but not in time for Ebay, but if I can fix it I\'d rather do that.
 

Theomar Pius

New member
I\'ve never used the GW stuff, but I do have experience with Woodland Scenics water from a bottle, which is probably the same stuff.
I was recently making a water trough, about a month ago, and ran into the same problem. It\'s either too thick a layer, or layers not curing properly before adding another, and the same result, a milky finish. Good news though: It\'s clearing up. I made it the first week of May, it\'s the secong week of June, and for the most part it\'s cleared up now. It\'s shrunk horribly and unusable, but not cloudy. Shrinkage shouldn\'t be an issue on yours since it is a much larger surface area, and not nearly as thick (deep?)

Hopefully yours will clear up in time for the comp.
 

Tonka

New member
It may sound strange (as it is meant to be the artificial version) but the cloudiness could be condensation, or high water saturation in the product.

If you can direct the airflow in a controlled manner get a hair dryer on a section of it. Depending on the heat it can generate you can space out a set of blasts e.g., 5 min on, 15 off over an hour or so.

Compare the part you dried with an untouched area the next morning.

Tonka

P.S., The same thing happens with other varnish-esque products.
 

Highbulp Billy

New member
In my experience, the GW water effects is almost impossible to use for any real depth of water, the layers have to be really thin and the waiting time for each layer to dry is too long for anyone with mere\'y human patience. It\'s fine for small puddles and glossy base work but you really should get some two-part water for this type of thing.
 

airhead

Coffin Dodger / Keymaster
What Billy said +1

If you are doing more than a sheen of water, go to casting resin or epoxy.

Casting resin is probably the least expensive. Don\'t use more than about an inch as it generates heat as it cures.

This stuff is basicly thick elmers white PVA glue. You might try a hair dryer on LOW. That may force the water out... poke it with a needle in the worst spots to give the air a channel to use. It will probably shrink and pull away from the banks.
 
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