MIG Pigment questions

[ScottRadom]

Finally got my first order of the MIG pigments. I ordered their fixative (back ordered!) but I got the thinner and some pigments. I set about putting a wash of Russian Earth on the treads and hull of my 15mm FoW Russian T-34 and I must say I absolutely love the pigments. I will be finding excuses to use them on anything now! So.....

On th acrylic resin that I got from them it reccomends to add 20% Plaster of Paris to the mix of pigment/resin. Is this meant to be in powder form, or pre-mixed water/plaster of paris? Is the plaster even reccomended for small scale stuff or should I consider it integral to the mix?

While I wait for the fixative to arive I have heard that Lighter fluid will do the trick. What do I use to clean a brush that\'s been in lighter fluid? Is any of this procedure a good idea?

Anyone have any experience with these products and these questions, or any discussion at all about how to use them?

 

[alextheartist]

Well, untill the genrul gets here, for FOW i wouldnt bother with the plaster, just use the powder straight then use the fixer.

Pretty sure the fixer is just more expensive lighter fluid. Just load a brush up, dab it on the powder and it soaks in. Not sure how to clean it though.

Alex

 

[stphn shphrdayahoo.c]

migs guidelines on their DVD recommend mixing plaster sand and pigment together with the resin then adding water

this works very well for me
How you apply the mix will probab;y have more effect on the look
with out the plaster and sand the mix is very thin and lacks any real dirt appearance (from my experiments with the stuff)

If you are planning to use these alot I would recommend the Mig FAQ dvd on pigments
this also has some very good techniques that may be of interest

 

[ScottRadom]

Cool, thanks for that. Hate to ask for more but do you think you could point me in the direction of the DvD?

Also, is there a scale issue at all with the product mixed with plaster? Hard for me to verbalize but I don\'t want the mud effect to be too chunky or have... sharp(?) points to it.

I don\'t think that was a good description at all on my part. Practice I guess. Thing I hate about weathering, and why I\'ve always been loathe to try it is you get a model painted how yopu want, you\'re pleased with it... now time to experiment and quite likely ruin it. Ah well, no guts, no glory I suppose.

 

[Baz]

Originally posted by ScottRadom
Cool, thanks for that. Hate to ask for more but do you think you could point me in the direction of the DvD?

Yeah I\'ve heard speak of this dvd on other sites but I haven\'t seen it anywhere.

 

[stphn shphrdayahoo.c]

DVD is on Mig web site www.migproductions.com

Vol 1 covers pigments

I got my copy through Historex agents in the uk

The DVD is by nightvision creations

As far as scale goes the plaster is so fine it does not seem to make any big problems
I would be more carefull with the sand

Also if you put less on on smaller scale models and work it in a little more that may help

My best surggestion is to have a play
(always a good excuse for new models)

 

[freakinacage]

if they say add stuff to it, i would, it aint cheap so anything that means you use less is good!

 

[ScottRadom]

Originally posted by freakinacage
if they say add stuff to it, i would, it aint cheap so anything that means you use less is good!

That\'s a real good point... but I still wonder if I should just add the plaster in the powder form or mix it with water first? I will go check on that DvD as well.

 

[ScottRadom]

Holy crap! Just tried to order from their site and they want 21.1 euro\'s for delivery on a 15 euro order!

Anyone know of a Canadian or American distributor for these guys?

 

[generulpoleaxe]

add water after, that way you can get the correct consistancy.
the resin is just a hardener to stop the plaster from becoming brittle so you don\'t need a lot.

lighter fluid is just as good as the fixer and cheaper.
just use water to rinse the brush after wards (use an old brush though as it will deteriorate)

try stippling the pigments in place dry for dusty effects (then place fixer on afterwards)
washes for muddy water effect etc.

thick gunky mess for proper muddy shit.

just look at nature for inspiration and don\'t be afraid to do it in stages, that\'s how nature works after all.

to be honest the pigments dvd isn\'t that great.
ask questions and trial by error mate, you will learn more and have the money saved for more pigments.

 

[ScottRadom]

TY Amigo, I was hoping you\'d answer these! I shoulda just PM\'d you maybe...

Alrighty, thanks and will do.