Most ridiculous thing I heard today

[Amazon warrior]

Originally posted by skeeve

´ve heard that the health-system/insurance in the states also \"reward\" doctors who don´t refer patients up in the system - is this true, because that could also be a cause

I don\'t think they do it directly, but what often happens is that if I refer a person to a specialist, then this specialist not me will be payed by the insurance company. It takes tremendous amount of integrity to admit you own incompetence and refer your patient out.

Dave\'s story is not uncommon (and from what he described it is borderline malpractice). I had something like this of my own with my son. Fortunately his situation was in the area of my narrow expertise so I went to a specialist right away. Otherwise they would be continuing treating his \"symptoms\". The red flag for me was the idea of using systemic steroids for treatment. I do steroids for a living and I know how over prescribed they are and what they do long-term, especially with kids.

What happens if your family doctor tells you something, but you think he/she might be talking out of their fundament? How does the second opinion thing work?

 

[skeeve]

Originally posted by Amazon warrior

Originally posted by skeeve

´ve heard that the health-system/insurance in the states also \"reward\" doctors who don´t refer patients up in the system - is this true, because that could also be a cause

I don\'t think they do it directly, but what often happens is that if I refer a person to a specialist, then this specialist not me will be payed by the insurance company. It takes tremendous amount of integrity to admit you own incompetence and refer your patient out.

Dave\'s story is not uncommon (and from what he described it is borderline malpractice). I had something like this of my own with my son. Fortunately his situation was in the area of my narrow expertise so I went to a specialist right away. Otherwise they would be continuing treating his \"symptoms\". The red flag for me was the idea of using systemic steroids for treatment. I do steroids for a living and I know how over prescribed they are and what they do long-term, especially with kids.

What happens if your family doctor tells you something, but you think he/she might be talking out of their fundament? How does the second opinion thing work?

Basically, my kid had some skin issues, small sores, itching things like this. She referred us to a dermatologists who right of the bat suggested an auto-immune disorder. and suggested systemic steroid treatment, just like this. My narrow field is glucocorticoids (type of steroid hormones) and how they regulate genes and I have a bunch of immunologists around me. Every time I request funding for my own stuff I list all these side effects of long-term systemic steroid treatment. Soooo when somebody offered this very treatment for my kid without any preliminary test just based on the fact that his symptoms persist I couldn\'t help it but question the competency of the person.

But then again It just so happens that I knew what to ask, if , for example, my kid say had kidney problems I would be much less confident that this particular doctor is full of...

 

[Amazon warrior]

Originally posted by skeeve

Originally posted by Amazon warrior

Originally posted by skeeve

´ve heard that the health-system/insurance in the states also \"reward\" doctors who don´t refer patients up in the system - is this true, because that could also be a cause

I don\'t think they do it directly, but what often happens is that if I refer a person to a specialist, then this specialist not me will be payed by the insurance company. It takes tremendous amount of integrity to admit you own incompetence and refer your patient out.

Dave\'s story is not uncommon (and from what he described it is borderline malpractice). I had something like this of my own with my son. Fortunately his situation was in the area of my narrow expertise so I went to a specialist right away. Otherwise they would be continuing treating his \"symptoms\". The red flag for me was the idea of using systemic steroids for treatment. I do steroids for a living and I know how over prescribed they are and what they do long-term, especially with kids.

What happens if your family doctor tells you something, but you think he/she might be talking out of their fundament? How does the second opinion thing work?

Basically, my kid some skin issues, small sores, itching things like this. She referred us to a dermatologists who right of the bat suggested an auto-immune disorder. and suggested systemic steroid treatment, just like this. My narrow field is glucocorticoids (type of steroid hormones) and how they regulate genes and I have a bunch of immunologists around me. Every time I request funding for my own stuff I list all these side effects of long-term systemic steroid treatment. Soooo when somebody offered this very treatment for my kid without any preliminary test just based on the fact that his symptoms persist I couldn\'t help it but question the competency of the person.

But then again It just so happens that I knew what to ask, if , for example, my kid say had kidney problems I would be much less confident that this particular doctor is full of...

Ah, I see. I appreciate that the awe in which most people hold doctors can be a powerful thing, even in this age of google searchs for symptoms. I was wondering how the health insurance companies viewed people who want second opinions, too.

 

[tzor]

Originally posted by Amazon warrior
If they taxed tea, however, just hand me the pitchfork and flaming torch!

No, you have to dress up as an American Indian, raid the ship and dump it into the harbor ... an act of piracy that results in a more sophisticated breed of harbor fish.

 

[Amazon warrior]

Originally posted by tzor

Originally posted by Amazon warrior
If they taxed tea, however, just hand me the pitchfork and flaming torch!

No, you have to dress up as an American Indian, raid the ship and dump it into the harbor ... an act of piracy that results in a more sophisticated breed of harbor fish.

lol
(Waste of good tea!)

 

[ScottRadom]

I agree that taxing the obese is really a far out idea that even if we could do it, probably shouldn\'t.

But I think we can all agree that we should charge left handed people at least 80% more to breath all our right handed air!

The NERVE of the lefty\'s! Truly God\'s cruelest joke.

Le\'ts get to work on this, please America!

And don\'t forget the Hobbit tax. All wierdo\'s of age 18 and over who are under 5 feet tall, time to cough up the tax. I mean seriously, who do you think you are!

 

[redgreen12]

HI ALLLL!!!!

OK i am a hevy man but how going do this wheaght all pepel in NY that live tharer INPOSBULL the creater of this topike herd ronge like other dumass govment sceems (not the up loder ) that its a bunch bull @#$%%#@# AND BE IN POSBULL to in acked whot neskt S E X and whot will cont two pepel one pesun well you get the ideer just some things cant be taxed now can we all talk abut minys and get on with ower lifes WKJR

 

[Yogie Bear]

In all fairness this is a pretty good plan.

As a non us person, the country is screwed. Your government has no money and is continuing to borrow funds at an alarming rate.

Basically they need money, and what better way to get it than to tax unhealthy food.

1. It looks as though they are helping fight obesity.
2. Everyone eats the stuff and so there is plenty of money to come in.

Any other ideas that they might use to raise money?

 

[Evil Dave]

Originally posted by Yogie Bear
In all fairness this is a pretty good plan.

As a non us person, the country is screwed. Your government has no money and is continuing to borrow funds at an alarming rate.

Basically they need money, and what better way to get it than to tax unhealthy food.

1. It looks as though they are helping fight obesity.
2. Everyone eats the stuff and so there is plenty of money to come in.

Any other ideas that they might use to raise money?

Um, cut spending perhaps?
Stop putting $50 million in earmarks for a marsh mouse in what\'s supposed to be a \"stimulus\" bill, maybe?
I don\'t know about you, but spending my way out of debt never seems to work for me.
Somehow, I don\'t think it\'s going to work for the government either.

 

[generulpoleaxe]

i agree with dave, western countries need to cut the wastefull spending of their goverments.

the banking system also needs to be changed, fractional reserve banking is a debt based system that works by making the majority poorer and punishes savers (ever noticed how real inflation is more than the interest you gain !)
the world needs to stop buying cheep disposable products and look at longer lasting products, not only are they better value in the long run but it also helps to stop companies depleating natural resources at a faster rate than they can be grown.

 

[airhead]

but I can buy a pack of disposable razors cheaper than I can buy the same number of replacement blades (same brand/style) for the \"good\" handle.
???
I\'ve been trained.
:no:

 

[alextheartist]

So? That doesn\'t make it better for the enviroment?

 

[airhead]

Originally posted by alextheartist
So? That doesn\'t make it better for the enviroment?

No, just better for my pocketbook.

 

[generulpoleaxe]

Originally posted by airhead
but I can buy a pack of disposable razors cheaper than I can buy the same number of replacement blades (same brand/style) for the \"good\" handle.
???
I\'ve been trained.
:no:

ever thought of resharpening the blades?
turn a piece of wet and dry into a motorized conveyor belt thingy and it works (i lost mine damnit)
you just can\'t market it due to copywright as it\'s classed as modifying someone elses product without their permission.

if people started to do things like this large companies would stop bothering with the disposable razor market and small local companies would take over providing higher quality products that last (their was a time when it was done like this remember , i\'m so going to get it for taking the piss lol )

i don\'t believe in all the big tax global warming crap (it\'s just a way of people getting rich on behalf of the working people) but i do think people need to move towards a sustainable society.
as for recycling, if companies didn\'t use as much packaging that would be a start, also, a lot of items that aren\'t recyclable can be incinerated and energy gained from that.
and before people think it, i aint no hippy, thye can sod off with their recycling human waste crap, i\'ll happily continue to pay somebody to do that shit.

puns intended