My Beef with Wedge Antilles

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Y\'know, just something about that guy. I have a bit of a love hate with this supporting character from the Star Wars universe. More of a pity/annoyance thing with him actually.

First, let me say that I take nothing away from his abilities as a pilot. He\'s got mad skills, not doubt. He deserves to be the leader of Rogue Squadron and all that.

First, the pity. Now we all know he put in a good days work on the assault on the first death star. Couldn\'t have been easy making it near the trench as he did. He definetely did the alliance a good piece of business that day. That\'s why he totally deserved that medal at the end of episode IV. Oh, not wait.... he got nothin\'. Han Solo and Chebacca got medals for showing up and shooting one tie fighter (which then launched itself into another tie fighter resulting in the good \'ole Tom Berenger \"Sniper\" maxim of \"One shot, two kills\". Lucky damn Corellian!). That\'s all they did! They show up, take one shot, Han Solo yells his \"Yee-Hoo\" like he deserves a medal and that\'s it. Back to Yavin for a shower... and of course a medal. Even C-3P0 gets a shine job. They put R2-D2 back together in record time so HE can make the podium. Where\'s Wedge, or even that Y-Wing pilot for that matter? Probably filling out the required paperwork for the consumption of ammunition and fuel, or worse yet, writing letters to the families of Porkins, Biggs Darklighter, and that awesome \"Stay on Target\" guy. But defo NOT getting a medal.

So I do feel he got a little left behind for his efforts.

However.... In the expanded universe Wedge drives around an X-Wing that apparently has two DeathStar symbols on it\'s fuselage depicting the fact that Wedge has indeed two death star kills under his belt.

Now hang on here.... we all saw that Wedge along with \"Colt 45\" Lando took the second bigger badder deathstar down in grand style (Lando showing that the Falcon CAN actually do something against a Death Star if it\'s not piloted by a selfish smuggler and a lanky ass wookie) so he deserves to have the one silohoute on his fighter. He kicked the empire\'s ASS that day again, and totally got the goal. Well done Wedge.

But hang on here, rewind to 1977 for a minute. Now I saw a farmboy from a dustball (Farming water on a desert planet. Yeah, uhm... I propose they make a trade with Hoth for water and start living the good life. Man Uncle Owen was cranky for a reason!) turn off his targetting computer and believe in a greater power then he had ever known existed (yeah, turns out it was just his mitochlorians living a symbiotic existence in his body. Which explains why he was always so good at everything growing up. Y\'know, like..... uhm.... Farming water... maybe? Or maybe just mitochlorian enhanced whining.) and hit the womp rat sized exhaust port (That engineer got his ass FIRED!)with the proton torpedo\'s for the big win.

Wedge? Dude bailed at the FIRST sign of damage to his fighter. We saw men smashin\' into the death star in busted X-Wings and Y-Wings like it was \'45 in the pacific. Sacrifices were made by all, for far less. Wedge makes it to the end, the war effort relies on this kid who\'s never even FLOWN IN SPACE before and Wedge, an experienced X-Wing Jockey. \"Oh Luke.... somethin\' totally bad is goin\' down back here. I lost the reception on my sattelite radio, I\'ve got zero air pressure in my tires and that stuff. I\'m out!\" And then he bails. Nice. Now I don\'t want to belittle his contribution to the war againstthe empire as a whole, but that first death star needs to be scraped off his X-Wing. Now!
 

GunjiNoKanrei

New member
i am not sure, but i believe somewhere (either one of the Rogue Squadron novels or the comics) that those Death Star symbols are to document that he participated in the destruction of two Death Stars, not necessarily delivering the killing blows himself.
 

BarstoolProphet

New member
Wedge painted those Death Stars onto his ship, himself. The Alliance/New Republic ship crews kept scraping them off. \"You got participation medals. We don\'t have room for egos, here. Get over it.\"

I\'ve never given the character much thought, to be honest. He seemed pretty irrelevant to me.

I felt worse for Dack. Luke\'s gunner in the snow speeder in Empire. He got a shock from the overloading control panel. Luke got the same thing.

When it came time to bail on the speeder, Luke gave him two quick shakes, then ran for it, leaving his unconscious gunner behind. I really don\'t think Dack was dead.

Or the poor, mistreated Rancor in Jedi... Luke killed it just because it was trying to fulfill its purpose in life. To eat. Jabba\'s animal handler was obviously not treating it very well, and Luke just killed it, instead of finding a better way.

Some Jedi.
 

Dragonsreach

Super Moderator
Staff member
Originally posted by ScottRadom
My Beef with Wedge Antilles
Shouldn\'t that be:
\"My Lentil Burger with Wedge Antilles\"


as for the rest, don\'t ever let me catch you giving GW Fluff Lawyers grief. lol
 

Aliengod3

Active member
NOTE: If you do not want a portion of the New Jedi Order series ruined do not read the following.

To his credit, in the New Jedi Order series he helps plan and execute the destruction of a Yuuzhan Vong world ship and a prominant figure in their hierarchy.
 

Undave

Flockwit
My best mate of some years ago shared his uni dorm with Dennis Lawson\'s son and as Dennis Lawson is Ewan McGergor\'s uncle the guy had Wedge Antilles for a dad and ObiWan Kenobi for a cousin.

I never met the guy and I haven\'t seen my mate in years but it was still pretty cool.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
@gunjinokarei: Participation? That\'s bunk! Not every fighter plane gets an aircraft carrier tattoed on it\'s plane when they win a carrier war!

@BarstoolProphet: Amen Brutha

@AW, UnDave and DR: We\'re trying to have a serious conversation here, quit threadjacking! The Mod\'s do NOT take kindly to this sort of thing! First warning!

@AG3: I am not hackin\' on the guy\'s skills, he\'s got crazy mad skills and is a hero to the rebellion. He just shouldn\'t have that first deathstar on his ship.

He bailed over Yavin. Like Ted Stryker from Airplane who \"Never got over Macho Grande\" Wedge did good work, but he should NOT have a full blown Death Star killin\' recognition thing on his bird.
 

No Such Agency

New member
LOL, you guys, don\'t you have a Klingon wedding to get to?

435_klingwed1.jpg
 

fat lad

New member
Have you ever thought that the reason that Han got a medal and wedge didnt was due to the fact that Han was a main character in the series and they thought it would make more sense to give him a medal than someone that barely features.

-T-
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
@NSA-You\'re making fun of a nerdy post made on a message board dedicated to painting little dolls primarily populated by grown men. I\'ll have to live with it. Oh yeah.... H\'geh K\'PLAH Mother Fugger!

@Fat Lad- Don\'t use crappy film logic on me! Han Solo didn\'t deserve to win! It\'s like seeing nepotism, it never works!
 

BarstoolProphet

New member
Film logic? When discussing Star Wars?

Scott, I believe you just made a very good joke.

Have some beef and a brew on me.

I\'ll get the cash to you next time I\'m in Saskatoon.
 

Gilvan Blight

New member
I figure they got their medals for their work in dealing the empire a serious blow. Not just for the final act of blowing up the Death Star but everything leading up to it.

The group that got medals were all integral in getting the Death Star Plans to the Rebels, without the plans there would have been no attack. I think that is Medal Worthy. Wedge had nothing to do with getting the plans, he just participated in a battle that a lot of other soldiers did, so no medal for him.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Han Solo and Chewbacca got PAID!!!! Cash money!

Prophet, I eat only the best stew and drink the best beer. It\'ll cost ya!
 

Torn blue sky

New member
Originally posted by ScottRadom
Han Solo and Chewbacca got PAID!!!! Cash money!
!

To begin with that was the dealio, yar. Then he threw his lot back in for free. And if you remember he didn\'t actually take the money :p
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
What are you talkin\' about!?!? Han and Chewie were loading up there mad stacks when Luke was dustin\' off for the Death Star! I never saw him unload. Did he do that in a book?
 

evil tendencies

Cake or Death?
Originally posted by ScottRadom
What are you talkin\' about!?!? Han and Chewie were loading up there mad stacks when Luke was dustin\' off for the Death Star! I never saw him unload. Did he do that in a book?

It never did make it to Jabba. Maybe too much after-medal partying?:D
 

Aliengod3

Active member
If I remember correctly Wedge had to bail from the death star assault from some engine failures. If you ask me he still deserves to have the DS on the side of his vehicle since I am sure he played a strong role in leading up to Skywalkers ability to even reach the star\'s reactor shaft. I am certain that he made some key kills in the battle of yavin which gave skywalker his opportunity.
 

ScottRadom

Shogun of Saskatchewan
Pffft.... key kills, engine troubles......

Look, there\'s more then 1 player on the field of whatever sport, but one person gets credit for the point(s).

Skywalker doesn\'t even have an X-Wing with a death star on it, does he.

He may have got an assist, he deserved a medal for sure (I\'ve been sayin\' that all along) but he did NOT kill the first death star. He didn\'t even take a shot. He may have had Luke\'s back, but I think even then it was kind of sketchy.

If he had engine trouble.... where was he gonna go? His home base was gonna get exploded, how far does an X-wing make it, especially when being tracked by a very much alive fleet of TIE fighter and what ever goodies the fully armed and operational first death star was packin\'?

So to bail on a life or death suicide mission doesn\'t cut it. Since they won he deserves a medal for his conduct but NO WAY does he get the participant badge for his X-Wing.
 

slah

New member
I think I´ll paint a death star on my Skoda when I get home from work and mail the pic to Scott :)
 
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