My first 40k style mini WIP

TrystanGST

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Taking pictures of the target while it's bare metal, or even a base color, can help a lot when it comes to planning out where to lighten and darken. It's made the terrorgeist skull a lot easier.

As for the nmm, it's very reliant on knowing where those highlights and lowlights go. That and contrast. It rarely looks right until you have it completely done, so don't stress if it looks wonky half way thru.
 

marjedi

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Well ok since you just walked into a comment that would get me into trouble, i am gonna sidestep that landmine and agree and look innocent
 

Aureo

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Coming along great so far, that is a beautiful model, and a very ambitious project-but where would we ever be if we didn't just go for it? I totally know what you mean about worrying about ruining the nmm you work ages on the get right, only to get splotches of pink where they shouldn't be! :crying: I'm looking forward to seeing how this one continues to develop.
 

kathrynloch

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Thanks Cass!

Okay, now that I've unburied my thread, I can get things caught up here. I've been working on this guy and meaning to update, but every time I start, I get interrupted. I left off, after stripping the thing once, working on other parts of the armor because 1. I was getting frustrated with the NMM and 2. If I did manage to get it right, I didn't want to ruin it by over-paint from the armor or other stuff.

I moved on to the cloth items. Since wings were going to be black, I decided this time around to paint the cloth white.

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Hey, wait a sec, that white ain't half bad. It's got just a bit too much blue in it, but perfectly fixable at a later date.

Then that ole inner demon, Brian...Briane whatever the hell its name is....popped up again. "Ya know, some folks have a devil of a time painting white like this, but you just knocked it out in less than 10 minutes."

Me - "Yeah, that was pretty cool."

Brian - "So why in the world are you struggling so much with NMM?"

Me - "Oh, I don't know. Maybe it's because I can wet-blend this stuff. but I can't do....that...with...NMM (Realization dawns and suddenly :lamp:). Wait a sec? Why not? Where's the rule that says I can't wet-blend with acrylic retarder and the whole nine yards?"

Brian is now laughing hysterically at me.

Me - "Well, most folks wet-blend when they paint, I just use the retarder more than they do. There is no bloody rule that says I can't do it that way."

So, eyeballing the wings, which are also now getting in my way and the fact the black just aint cutting it - plus, I once again have waaaay too much paint on him.

Well guess what, he's getting another bath in Dawn Power Dissolver. It's a damn good thing this stuff is so gentle on resins.

So into the bag he goes.

And comes out a clean and ready to go. I also removed the wings while I was at it.

Wet-blending with retarder is the foundation of my painting style now. If I can't paint that way, I'm suddenly and completely out of my element. And the funny thing was, it's so ingrained that it didn't even occur to me that was part of the problem. But I can't wet-blend this stuff 100%. Again, I'd be applying too much paint. So I experimented a little and this is what I came up with.

Dark brown is now a dark brown glaze - basically a mix of dark brown paint, a few drops of chestnut ink, and good ole Vallejo glazing medium, then I thinned that as much as I dared with water. The main body of my paints, for the gold, I mixed a healthy dose of retarder. All the way up to white. Then I worked on the technique. It didn't come through right away, but each step was much more promising than the last.

Then I got this -

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You can't see it in this photo but I did get it all the way up to white.

It's not perfect by any sense of the word, but it's a hell of a lot better than what I was doing.

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I've only worked on the full chest plate on the above pic. The arms haven't been touched at all and I'm just starting on the legs.

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I sorta touched on the neck but not a heck of a lot yet.

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This one is from today, a little more work done. It's really easy to screw up that's for sure.

The one thing that's really cool about this glaze is if I screw up and put too much highlight on, a touch with my smallest brush of the glaze, knocks the highlight color down one.

For example here are the colors I'm using -

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I just took pics of them right in the pot - sorry for the toothpicks in the last one but I was moving fast. lol!

The second to the last color is actually bronzed flesh and it's a pretty strong color. That makes it really easy to go over board with it. But if I hit it with the glaze, it knocks the color down one step and it looks like the color I have in the upper right.

If I put the glaze on the lightest color, then it knocks it down to the bronzed flesh, another layer of glaze knocks it down again. So it's really cool that I can fix stuff and not CHANGE the colors I'm working in.

I think I'm definitely moving in the right direction now. There's only one last problem...my work has once again put on too many layers while I was experimenting with this stuff. The filigree is so fine that anything more than two or three layers and it's covered.

So once again, I'm eyeballing that Dawn Power Dissolver. At least this time I'll be able to get that stupid seam on his leg that I forget about EVERY STINKING TIME! It's driving me nuts because I only remember it when I've got paint on him.

DING DING! ROUND THREE!
 

Torn blue sky

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Glad you changed tac on that, looks far far better now! Only critique at this point is that the white sheen wouldn't be quite so big on the shoulder plate, everything else is taking pretty good form though! All this NMM stuff going on in threads is one of them nomens... I'm destined to do it sometime soon =(
 

Meph

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Wait, wut? Kat? 40K? There's hope for you yet! If this goes on we'll peer-pressure Skelette into painting a marine for so'!
Ah... and painting even a Blood Angel, it warms me heart, it does. And looking good as well.

TBS: No worries, I'm not touching that nomnomnom stuff with a 10-foot pole either. Glaciers move faster than my painting progress. If I start nomnomnomming, I'll never get anything done anymore.
 

marjedi

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Sooooooo take 3 or is it 4 lol, looks alot better this time Kat.

And i have the nimmenommemanny stuff on the banned list aswell, mostly because im not a fan and everyone bur the pope is doing it so im not going to lol
 

kathrynloch

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lol! Thanks guys. Well, the NMM has taken on a life of it's own, simply because it's kicking my butt. I'm at war now, just because this stuff is being so difficult. I'm not going to lose to paint - sorry - that ain't happening. I'm going to figure it out if it's the last thing I do. lol!

It's the same thing with me and computers. I can rip 'em a part and put 'em back together because I refused to lose to a machine. :sinister:

As soon as I get him stripped, we'll be starting round three. lol!
 

marjedi

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Hehehe well you better arm yourself and dig in for a loooong siege, i have your back trooper.

May the Force be with you, The Emperor Protects, Long live the Queen
 

MightyChad

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Well, if you decide to give up and go for metallics and need help, contact one of the masters, like JRN or skelette. But if you don't need one of them, I might be able to throw some advice your way. But only for metallics, none of that NMM for me....


....yet.....
 

kathrynloch

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Wow - every time I would start to reply to this, something would happen to pull me away. Finally I get to sit down and type this.

Heya Chad! Glad to see you came up for air. Thanks for the offer on the metallics - when you can, stop by my Step One thread and take a quick peek. I'm posting some real metallics stuff as soon as I finish this.

But as to NMM, I thought you did NMM on your GD entry? Didn't have it on the banner or something? Now I can't remember.
 

MightyChad

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Wow - every time I would start to reply to this, something would happen to pull me away. Finally I get to sit down and type this.

Heya Chad! Glad to see you came up for air. Thanks for the offer on the metallics - when you can, stop by my Step One thread and take a quick peek. I'm posting some real metallics stuff as soon as I finish this.

But as to NMM, I thought you did NMM on your GD entry? Didn't have it on the banner or something? Now I can't remember.

Yeah, I will do NMM on a banner, as that doesn't make sense in metallics. But other than that I have only done one figure with metallics, and it was terrible. But it was long ago, I was new to painting, and the web scene was no where near what it is now. I thought that I had created something new. I understood that mine was terrible, but I had done something I had never seen before. Then when I finally saw someone really do SENMM well, I hungit up and decided that I wasn't ready for it. My blending still isn't, so I will wait. I may be a coward though. Crap, look at the time, I gotta get into the books again. See you in a couple of weeks.
 

marjedi

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Eh what SENMMNMNMM or wht ever....too many acronyms, almost ad bad as the militaries TLA jungle
 

marjedi

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Lol, i have a mate that works for nato. He showed me a letter written by some clerk somewhere in the system made up completely of acronyms.

It made perfect sense once you decifered it.
 

kathrynloch

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My favorite - SNAFU.

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But see - I can do it...I just need to get this on the damn armor. lol!

This is the extra base I bought from Dragon Forge. I absolutely LOVE his bases. The arch angel, with his wings, is very top heavy and falls over backward. So I got a 60mm to add to his existing base, that should balance it. And my dude has the fleur-de-lis all over him, when I saw this base, I absolutely had to get it. lol! But I practiced a little more NMM on it - this was easy peasy because it's FLAT and definitely not tiny! lol!
 
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