My new \'gold technique\'

[ramonlaan]

Hello all,

I just uploaded a new miniature (ID 74333) and more pictures can be found on my website www.miez.nl/putty-n-paint in the gallery (living saint).

On this mini I painted the gold in a way which I think is very nice and certainly has potential. I painted the \'gold\' parts in GW\'s chainmail and mithril silver (still the best metallic paints around IMHO). The I used several layers of full strength Tamyia Clear paints. First one was yellow (where I applied pretty liberally in the recesses), when dry I used orange (further down the recesses) and when these were dry I used smoke to create the deepest shades. I think the eefcts are very cool, and maybe with some better control (full strength tamiya clear is difficult to control) the results will be even better.

The effects are quite difficult to photograph, as everyone who ever daw a Jakob Nielsen model for real and on photos should be able to confirm. Nontheless I think there is enough to see for you?

So, tell me what you think of this effect and try it yourself!!

Ramon

 

[airhead]

OK, you lazy gits, here is an easy link.
HERE

Ramon, I cannot offer anything constructive. White is one of the hardest colors to work with (how do you highlight white? whiter white) and you have done an excelent job of it. Spot on.

I am going to have to get me some Tamiya paints yet.

 

[ramonlaan]

Thanks Airhead!

The white is actually better IRL, I do have big problems getting photos right the last few months.... Weird..

But these Tamiya Clear paints are just totally amazing. Indeed just get some. The smoke is best, then orange (these two actually make the coolest combination for any armor, \'silver\' or \'gold\'... for gold you just use the yellow as well.
Just try it.

Ramon

 

[ramonlaan]

Hmmz.. forgot to answer the question... srry..

The white is actually shadow grey (GW paint) base coat and then some layering whist continually mixing in more white. the final highlights are pure white.

In all you can get the best results with this, but use very thin paints. I guess there must be like 15 layers on this white.

Ramon

 

[CtanSupportGroup]

Really nice effects. What type of paints are they; are they acrylic or enamel type or something different?

What I want to know, is can I clean my brush in water?

How much do the paints cost? I will have to try it when I get some time...

Thanks.

 

[ramonlaan]

These Tamiya Clear paints are acryllic, yes. But they do contain solvents as well. strange stuff really. Mix it with a little water and it will glob together (unusable) but if you add more water it thins out wonderfully and can be used as a normal ink. For that is primarily what hey are: very thick inks.

Brushes can be cleaned just with water, but I do recommend not to leave the stuff on the brush too long, and when you are working with one color for a longer time period (for example smoke a grey knight) I have to rinse out my brush a few times.

They were like between 2 and 3 euro\'s per pot IIRC... not expensive at all and you only need afew pots. Be sure to take orange and smoke, after these I use the green and yellow most.

Good luck and do try it indeed!

Ramon

 

[ramonlaan]

Oh, and I have updated the photos on my website to include one in which the whites come out more as they are IRL...

www.miez.nl/putty-n-paint (the gallery section)

The whites are very subtly shaded and especially the Cherubs wings. I wanted to make these almost pure white but the photos were quite bad.. I\'ll try a direct link as well:

Saint

 

[Avelorn]

I\'ve tried the technique described by JRN on my two latest minis (one is here on cmon), It worked pretty well. But I didn\'t use yellow.. I\'ll try this one out in the (not so far) future. Thanx for the tip!

EDIT*
I used brazen brass, shining gold, mithril silver. Tamiya clear orange, red glaze (old GW) and yellow ink (also old GW).

 

[Jakob Nielsen]

Looks fantastic, Ramon!

Actually I used the exact same technique in early 2001 on my first 40k inquisitor (servo skull and balded, \"arrogant attitude\"-guy on my site), but has moved to using gold since then.
- Maybe revisiting that technique would be a task for the future. You have certainly proved that the combination really works.

Regarding the overall paintjob: Maybe the white could benefit from some subtle tamiya shading (also orange and maybe some super-subtle green as well) to tone the model towards the hue of the gold to use Photoshop expressions. But then again maybe it is just the photo.

Best Regards,
JRN

 

[CtanSupportGroup]

Originally posted by ramonlaan
These Tamiya Clear paints are acryllic, yes. But they do contain solvents as well. strange stuff really. Mix it with a little water and it will glob together (unusable) but if you add more water it thins out wonderfully and can be used as a normal ink. For that is primarily what hey are: very thick inks.

Brushes can be cleaned just with water, but I do recommend not to leave the stuff on the brush too long, and when you are working with one color for a longer time period (for example smoke a grey knight) I have to rinse out my brush a few times.

They were like between 2 and 3 euro\'s per pot IIRC... not expensive at all and you only need afew pots. Be sure to take orange and smoke, after these I use the green and yellow most.

Good luck and do try it indeed!

Ramon

Thanks.

 

[ramonlaan]

Ctan, no probs

Jakob, hi!
I remember the one you talk about. And I do think the technique has potential indeed. But I used undiluted tamiya here and it may be better to use thinned with more lyers.. It would be more subtle I think. When I have more time and a suitable candidate (mini) I will expand on these experiments.
The overall paintjob. You (and Frustrated Father) are right insofar the white areas are concerned. They are not unshaded, but they are really \'clean\'. This was intentional to create a contrast between the gold (vibrant and \'deep\') and the white (\'pure\'). But the contrast may be a bit large indeed. It certainly doesn\'t photograph well (because of the contrast most likely..)
Anyway, I am pretty happy with the mini but there is indeed room for improvement still

Everything OK at home Jakob?

Ramon