New painter looking for tips

Alchemist

New member
Hi, first time poster and new painter. I started painting about two and a half months ago and just posted my first miniatures on CMON over the last few days--not any of my \"first wave\" group (you know, those really awkward learning-the-basics minis), but the second wave--after I felt like I at least got a relative handle on the rudimentary skills: shading, washes, dry-brushing, etc.

My minis have gotten ratings in the 5-6 range, which I suppose isn\'t too bad for a new painter. I hope to use CMON\'s ratings as a barometer for evolving my skills. I am also curious if anyone has done what I\'m doing: started posting from the beginning and seen change over years.

When I first photographed my miniatures I was surprised at how bad they looked on the computer screen vs. in Real Life--the camera really brings out all the faults. So I recognize that there is both an art to just taking the picture, but also it has made me appreciate anew the skill level of the great mini painters--and I\'m in awe of how they are able to paint the way they do. Other than learning how to actually photograph a miniature without it looking too glaring but also giving as much detail as possible (tips would be appreciated), I am finding that my main problem is getting smooth colors and shading...what looks like good shading, aka a solid \"tabletop quality\" miniature, isn\'t necessarily so when you get it on film. So I\'m looking for tips on smoother colors. I started watering them down more, which seems to help, but I\'m also thinking of investing in a magnifying glass and better lighting as it seems part of the problem is environmental (I use a garden-variety desk lamp).

I\'m also finding that time and patience are key. One of my favorite painters, Automaton, takes 20-30 hours for a normal 28-30 mm miniature. My usual time is 2-3 hours, although I spent a lot of time tinkering with my most recent Overlord Warrior, which probably took 6-7 hours total. It was my first attempt at non-metallic metals and I just couldn\'t get it how I wanted it.

Take a look at my minis, if you will, and let me know how you think I can improve them. I haven\'t gotten into basing yet as I like to use my minis for D&D and I\'ve been so busy with learning how to paint that I haven\'t wanted to take on basing, so please forgive the lack of fancy bases!

Thanks,
Jonathan aka Alchemist
 

uberdark

New member
wow.... an attempt at nmm so early on. kudos to you. it can be tough.... as for beginning miniagtures i have put mine on from the beginning and if you look at mine from beginning to now you can see the natural progression...look at eric j\'s as well, he has progressed immensely and not to mention a slew of others.... your basically layering your miniatures right now... the blending is something that will come in time.... as for now try glazes in between your layers and you should be able to get smoother variations... dont forget to brushlick as well. hehe. hope this helps and welcome to the forums....if you want to get in thick real quick stop by the freak bar in the genreal discussions forum and introduce yourself , just be aware that many of them bite. hehe. well take it easy. uber
 

Kester

New member
I\'m impressed. If you were to see the stuff that I was churning out after a couple of months.... still back then we had to paint with sticks and bits of coal using paint that we had to mix ourselves out of mud and spit.
Seriously, though, good effort! your paint still looks a little thick. As for your pictures, there are some good articles on here about photography. In fact there are loads of great articles on here covering most aspects of the hobby. Have a root around and you\'ll be winning Golden Demons in no time!
Welcome aboard.

Kes
 

boristfrog

New member
You\'ve been painting only a few months, AND have posted a few models here, you don\'t waste any time.
Definitely get reading some of the articles on the site, they\'re pretty helpful, then search through the forums for any particular q\'s. Other than that, post your work where people can see it and give u feedback.
Still can\'t believe you dove straight into NMM, but if you\'re that fearless you\'ll be happier with ur painting in no time :)

PS> I am not fearless, I have not tried NMM :D
 

CELPainting

New member
I personally have always used CMON as a way to keep myself grounded, nothing like having a bunch of random people tell you what they really think of a mini blown up to 5 times its actual size to break you down and keep you realistic. I have found that I have improved alot over the years I have been posting on CMON. And I improve the most when I really listen to what the people here say.
You are on a good track and obviously have a natural ability to control the brush considering your newness to painting. I would keep posting your models on CMON and keep up on the forums. Every comment you get helps more than 50 votes since you know which ways to improve. If I were to give you a few tips I would recomend thinner paints, and some black or brown lining between one piece of a model and another (between the skin of the bugbear and his loin cloth for example).
 

Backstabbeth

New member
Well I\'d say you are on a pretty good track right now.. those are basic layers minis but i think they look pretty good and MUCH better than anything I did after painting for a few months! well done. Id say definitely check out the articles section here for some good lessons ideas.

Well done again

Tim
 

Alchemist

New member
Thanks for the good tips and friendly welcome. I will scour through the articles and continue submitting minis as I move along (I\'m painting at least one mini a week)--and post links here for feedback.

Thanks again.
 
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