New (returning?) painter, need advice with these Reaper minis

MrNutt

New member
[I also posted some of this on the Reaper forum but I thought I would try here as well to cast my net wider.]

Hello,


I used to paint Games Workshop miniatures when I was a kid, but was put off for many years by the price. Having found out about Reaper recently I decided to get back into it. I picked up the Learn to Paint Kit, a few extra Reaper miniatures and some extra paints/brushes. The valkyrie I have attached was my first attempt after a long break, and now I am getting onto the mouslings. I am having some difficulties though. I would love to hear any feedback on these difficulties I list or any other criticism or advice.

With the valkyrie there are some parts I am quite happy with. Her right eye was never great, and has got messed up a bit somehow (I am dreading fixing it, maybe I should get some greenstuff and fashion an eyepatch?). Also her face has a kind of chalky look to it that I don't know how to avoid. I didn't have any gold paint, so I tried to do her armor as leather with metal features. On the chest that seems to have gone quite badly. For the hair I think it could do with more "depth" but I am having trouble working out how to achieve that. Her base I am actually quite happy with (in contrast to the other miniatures).

As cliched as it is, I was going for an "evil albino" look with the mousling assassin. Having looked again at the stock photo in the store I may try to put some of the caucasian flesh colour I have on his nose. I had tried mixing up a pink before but it looked way too "valentines day". His eyes are also looking pretty flat, and I'm also having some trouble making his fur look "furry". The bases on these mouslings (and some other miniatures I have) have been a real challenge to get looking right. Recently I have been trying basecoating with shadowed stone, washing with brown liner, and highlighting with leather brown, but whatever I do I can't get it where I'm happy with it.

I decided to do the druid more as a wizard (I bought a trio of reds for a dragon I am holding off on painting so I want to use those). I have had issues painting the orb in his staff (I want it to have some sort of blue mystical look). I was having problems with the colour of the staff or the orb flowing into the crevice between them and looking bad, so I did a sort of outline with diluted brown liner and now plan to paint the orb "up to" the edge without the paint flowing into it. I am happy with his eyes, but his fur is also a struggle. I was going for "black mouse" though I then switched to "dark grey mouse" so I could try to get some shading in.

The thief and beekeeper I am really just basecoating for now (I include them here so I can follow up with them later). I had some trouble with the pale saffron yellow being weird, but I think it just required far more shaking than I was giving it. The skeleton is done roughly by the "Learn to Paint Kit" book, I think he looks good. The orc I am taking a different route with (trying to make his armor look like it was painted black and then scuffed up). His base is hideous right now, I know.

Thank you for reading.
 

KruleBear

Active member
Welcome to the forum. Your brush control looks great and these are all nice looking gaming paint jobs. As for next steps it depends what level you are shooting for. In general the cloak on the elf and the orcs are the only ones that come across as having any contrast. The others look to have little to no contrast. What you will constantly hear around here is "more contrast"...one you think you have too much contrast, then go further. Contrast to black in the shadows and white on the highlights. Once you get that down then you will want to get more color theory to go to the next level...I am sure some of the more experienced painters will be along to give better advice than me on this.

Also if the learning to paints are the newer ones with the white PVC "Bones" minis, they will make your process much harder. It takes A LOT more effort to make Bones minis look high tabletop or display kevel than a good metal, plastic, or resin mini.

Also be sure to check out the varius articles on this site.

-cheers
 

MrNutt

New member

Thank you!

Welcome to the forum. Your brush control looks great and these are all nice looking gaming paint jobs. As for next steps it depends what level you are shooting for. In general the cloak on the elf and the orcs are the only ones that come across as having any contrast. The others look to have little to no contrast. What you will constantly hear around here is "more contrast"...one you think you have too much contrast, then go further. Contrast to black in the shadows and white on the highlights. Once you get that down then you will want to get more color theory to go to the next level...I am sure some of the more experienced painters will be along to give better advice than me on this.

Also if the learning to paints are the newer ones with the white PVC "Bones" minis, they will make your process much harder. It takes A LOT more effort to make Bones minis look high tabletop or display kevel than a good metal, plastic, or resin mini.

Also be sure to check out the varius articles on this site.

-cheers

I think the contrast problem on the mouslings is because I started with the "base" colour and then the only darker regions are because of washes (diluted reaper brown liner). I might try basecoating with a darkened version of that colour and then shading up to the same highlights I have now. I guess I should probably be okay painting over what I have because the cloaks don't have much detail to be lost?

I have found a bunch of videos on colour theory applied to miniature painting that I am going to watch, and then I'll give it another crack.

I have a few metal Reaper miniatures (including a lizardman that I am keen to get onto once I feel like I have made my first set of rookie mistakes). I am generally impressed with the bones miniatures (especially for the price). It does seem like the fine detail that is on them is present, but maybe a bit less sharp than in the metal (which affects how easy it is to pick the detail out). That is my excuse for the fur anyway, I feel like I had an easier job as a kid painting fur on GW minis. But I may just have forgotten how. I may also order a sprue of replacement metal weapons if I get more bones humanoids.

I'll take a look at those articles for tips too.

Thanks for all your help.
 

MrNutt

New member
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I have taken what you said on board, along with the advice I got from the Reaper forums, and some things that my fiancee suggested. I think these two miniatures are finished now, what do you reckon? I was going for a sort of "glow" effect from the mage's orb, however I think it ended up looking a bit more like frosty ice magic. I also increased his overall contrast (shading by blending green into the reds for the lowlights). It turned out that the blobby thing on top of his staff is actually a little frog, but by the time I realised that he was a couple of paint layers beyond saving. I did try picking him out in green but I also ran into problems with there being too many colours on the miniature. The valkyrie I didn't do much to. I fixed a few things,shaded her hair with a brown wash, and her leathers with a red wash.
 

KruleBear

Active member
They look cool. The osl is a little harsh on the transition, but looks to be placed in the right spots and reads as you intend it. The tail seems a little flat, you may want to darken it like you did the indide of his ears.

the Valkyrie is nice tabletop. If you want to bring it up a knotch highlight a few strands of hair along her shoulder even more taking it near white. Same thing with highlighting the highest points of the leather on the helmut, just above the bust, and the top of the glove on the raised arm.

Good painting.
 

MrNutt

New member
More models!

Hello again everyone. I've been working away at trying to improve my painting.

Reaper Bones 89001 Pathfinder Red Dragon

This is the model that made me place my first Reaper order and get back into painting. I've started using sand for basing again and I really enjoy the fine texture it gives. I tried using sealer to "save" my work a few times on this model but I never ended up removing my mistakes, instead I just painted over them. I think this has left some of the details a bit gloopy (e.g. the horns). Overall I am pretty happy with it but I would love to hear any comments. Once I know he is done I am going to Dullcote him and then put some gloss on his tongue.

RAFM Durnaoth Elf Halberds and Ral Partha 03-209 Elf Standard Bearer


I bought these off eBay not really knowing what they would end up looking like. I find the standard bearer looks a little goofy (reminds me of the Planescape Torment character models) but I really like the Halberdiers. They were weird to assemble, as they were molded with their right hands attached to their thighs. They had to be cut off and their arms bent into place. I still feel like there is a little something missing. Again, any feedback would be great. I am planning to get some gloss spray (Krylon maybe?) for these guys and then I will dullcote them. I will test that on the standard bearer first. My fiancee wants to set them up with the dragon somewhere in our apartment.

Crucible 91-221 Orc Eagle Knights


Another eBay purchase where I had little idea what I would be getting. I was really excited to find out that these are orcs with an Aztec spin. They are almost where I want them but I still have a few things left to do. Let me know what you think.

Thank you!
 

MrNutt

New member
Just took the standard bearer out to test the Krylon UV-Resistant Gloss varnish on him and he rebelliously leapt off the stick he was blu-tacked to in-transit and divorced himself from his banner. I had to settle for testing out the Dullcote on the Valkyrie I painted previously.
 
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