NMM for shiny cloth or not?

[farseerlum]

i am trying to do a demonette (GW) and i want a gold satin effect for the loin cloth.

should i be trying to do it using NMM techniques or is it a different color of fish?

thanks for the help!

 

[Errex]

Actually...

... you should go for it. You see, there\'s no reason not to try NMM to portray materials that are not supposed to be, well, metallic. AS a metter of fact, the only real difference I\'ve ever found between doing colored NMM armor and regular clothing, is that the armor has to have really sharp, thin, short highlights to give the impression of hardness, while regular clothing can be done without this sort of treatment. Also, when portraying fabrics, most of us use a gradient that starts with the darkest shade suitable, and ends somewhere short of using pure white highlights. So, worst case scenario, using NMM for a satin look might be interpreted just as very dramatic highlighting.

 

[Chrispy]

What\'s that about fish? You made me hungry now...
Moving on: Just as Errex said, It depends on how you do it, if it looks like Sky-Earth NMM, it could look weird. I would suggest mottling the white highlight so that it does look like cloth. Also, a few flecks of highlight may make it look shimmery, like sequins... I\'m guessing that\'s what your going for but keep in mind this is Slannesh, and their garb is pretty outlandish...

 

[Flashman14]

I understand a good compromise (and I\'ve been unssuccesful at it) is to use metallic paints but do it in a NMM style - creating in effect the dramatic highlights mentioned above.

I\'m working on a Sikh with a Gold and Purple turban in alternating colors.
For the Gold I used GW Shining Gold as a base coat, Brown Inked that (50:50 with water) then recoated with Shining Gold leaving the ink in the deepest recesses and finally a once over the highest spots of GW Burnished Gold - it\'s not very deep in the shade values but an extra step could include adding GW Mithril Silver to burnished gold and do a few more passes adding more M. Silver at each level. (that\'s the closest to white I own in GW metallics - but if you have a more exotic pallette I would use yet another layer of Vallejo\'s Flat Aluminum with the faintest traces of that previous mix in it - this only dotted on the highest peaks and tips of the most extreme folds.

 

[farseerlum]

metallic nmm for shiny look?

thats sounds pretty neat actually. the only problems i have with the metalics is that flecky look but on such small areas.

i will try it.

so far though i have done sharp highlights and am letting the gloss varnish on the higlights do the shimmying.

thanks for the advice everyone.

 

[Badaab]

NMM can be tricky, and sky/earth NMM might look a little funky on a curved cloth surface, especially if it has lots of creases, folds, wrinkles, or what-have-you. Either way you decide to go, sounds ambitious and I look forward to seeing the results.

On another note...
I\'ve heard people complaining a lot about the \'texture\' they get from metallic paint, but its never been apparent to me on anything I\'ve painted with metallics. Maybe because I water my stuff down so heavily, about 60 percent water and 40 percent paint...

Joe

 

[Chrispy]

Yes, I hate my metallics, even though I store them upside down so all the powder is at the top.. Haven\'t used them in ages but I will again as NMM is time consuming. Cloth is weird as is flows and perhaps if this is done well, it could look like water!

 

[Badaab]

Try using small ball-bearings in your metallics... helps mixing mine a breeze, and keeps them nice and evenly tinted. It evens works on those impossible to mix GW colored metallics from the last paint line.

Joe

 

[Dragonsreach]

Try using small ball-bearings in your metallics... helps mixing mine a breeze

I must be a tightwad I use the waste metal tabs of figures to help stir my paints. That and the occaisional wooden stirrer from Starbucks.

 

[Badaab]

I\'ve never purchased ball bearings myself... I recieved one of those silly magnet desk sculpture things (technical terms there, watch out) that had a whole bunch of them... I tossed the magnet base, and just kept the ball bearings because I thought they might be useful for something.
I\'d imagine those little desk sculpture things are relatively inexpensive, and they come with about 300 bearings, so it might be worth the investment if you\'re so inclined.

Joe