Octavian's 1st WIP

Maenas

Maenas

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From this side of the monitor, it looks very good for just a "plastic gaming" miniature! I cannot say anything to help you improve it :S

Maybe a little bit more shadowing under the lower lip...

A part from recalling that image that BAM and Bailey posted some time ago with a face divided in three areas, being top yellowish, middle redish, and bottom blueish. But on 28/32 mm is a bit more difficult to pull of that gradation.... at least for me at the present moment.
 
Octavian80

Octavian80

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That's funny you mention the tri-sected face picture; I was just watching a Painting Buddha video this morning that showed the same thing!

Thanks Maenas! Yeah that bottom lip is bugging me too, haha.
 
KruleBear

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Bailey demonstrates the technique a few different timee in his wip. The blues on the bottom half help represent male stubble which may not apply since he is bearded. I also agree that adding some color below the lip would help. He looks like he'd be cold, so some blue glaze below the lip may help convey this.
 
BloodASmedium

BloodASmedium

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This is a newer version but same idea it's what David refers too!!! Even takes it a but further but the too image is what your after !!!View attachment 56094View attachment 56095 after all the basic shading and highlights are applied these glazes(extremely thinned washes of red blue and yellow looks like tinted water) are then glazed in !!!
 
Hairster

Hairster

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Invaluable reference there BAM..there are plenty of classical portraiture reference books that can be very informative too.

Flesh colour is anything but flesh coloured in reality.
 
Octavian80

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Oh BAM you're a godsend! Thanks a gazillion!! This will definitely help and I am definitely going to experiment. Thanks again!!
 
BloodASmedium

BloodASmedium

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And this gentlemen

Is ANOTHER of many reasons why people get better from the forums !!! Like baily says "just paying it forward!" ;)
 
BloodASmedium

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And this gentlemen

Is ANOTHER of many reasons why people get better from the forums !!! Like baily says "just paying it forward!" ;)
 
Foxtail

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Not sure I'm brave enough to try glazing those colours in a face. But I'm rubbish at faces anyway...

Mini looks great so far Oct!
 
Octavian80

Octavian80

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Yeah Fox, I agree it's kinda intimidating. But I think I'm going to try it out. What's the worst that could happen? Ruin the whole thing and have to start all over? Hahahahaha . . . Oh boy lol.

And thanks for the kind words!
 
Hairster

Hairster

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It's definitely one of those practise makes perfect things Octavian...I've always stuck to the blue stubble/rosy nose and cheeks approach but those washes need to be virtually none existent when they are applied.

I will usually pool water on my palette then add a speck of ink, pull it to one side on the palette and add more water until it looks almost clear. You are better off applying multiple layers of almost nothing and building it up.

Keep at it though and you'll have that eureka moment at some point.
 
BloodASmedium

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Face has so much more character!!! You pulled it off. Remeber this method will work even better on a model without a beard this way the blue and 5 o'clock shadow on the chin can be successfully shown.but this is a great job. Sometimes you may have to go back in and rehighlight the bridge of the nose etc. but the effects here looks much more natural than the previous.
 
Octavian80

Octavian80

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@Hairster - Yeah, I need to invest in some actual inks, washes, and glazes. I make my own from normal paint and I swore it was thinned enough. I guess I need to follow my own advice of if you think it's watered down enough, water it down some more haha.

@BAM - Thanks dude! It does add some interest I guess. Thanks for you help and encouragement!!
 
KruleBear

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The yellow may be a little strong, but definately makes the face much more interesting. Good work on trying it out.
 
Foxtail

Foxtail

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To be honest I didn't even realise how much BaM had used this technique on the Libby, but now I know I can't unsee it. I think that might be what's happening with your guys face. Because you know you've used the glazes, your attention is drawn to them.

I reckon if you presented this to someone who hadn't read the thread, they wouldn't be saying the glazes are too strong.
 
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