OH GOD I KILLED IT

[Lowrianne]

I have been working on a thunderbolt mountain mini of an angel fighting a dragon. I swear, it is the best painting I have done.

Then, I killed it. The angel is supposed to be standing/balancing on a rock, with a support piece... which... I did not realize was a support piece and I cut it off and threw it away.

The mini had a lot of flashing on it still, some in BIG pieces.

The Angel won\'t stand anymore. What can i do?? I don\'t have a drill or a bit...

I feel like I killed kenny.

(contemplating making the angel lie on the ground and be eaten by the dragon.

 

[sivousplay]

You could always use some epoxy putty to make the rock a little bigger and create a toehold for the angel and then glue it down.

hope this helps,
jim

 

[Thri-Keen Priest]

Salvation for Angels

Lowrianne,
Did you happen to see my post on conversions? You can save that angel and make it better than ever:
All you need is a very small drill bit, (about $1)
You don\'t even need a drill or pin vise to drill it; you can use a normal #11 X-acto knife. Remove the blade and *force* the drill bit in there.
Hold the angel in one hand and turn the knife with the other hand, pressing the butt of the handle against your belly. It\'s kinda tedious this way, but it works. (I prefer to *carefully* use a power drill.) Do the same for the base, going in at least an eighth of an inch on each side, preferably 1/4 or more. Now take a finish nail (2 cents) and clip it to length with a pair of pliers. A couple dabs of glue and you\'re back in business! (with some added experience points on your personal character sheet!)

 

[Lowrianne]

Next silly question,
where do I get the epoxy putty? My local gaming store has epoxy glue, paint, brushes and not much else.

I will also look into the drill bit & finish nail at the hardware store around the corner.

 

[Errex]

You can get epoxy putty at the hardware store, it\'s used in plumbing and such. the hobby store would be the best bet at finding a suitable drill bit, I think.

 

[Thri-Keen Priest]

Epoxying Precariousness

No offense, Siviousplay, but I rather doubt that just epoxying the foot to a base will suffice here:
Such a connection just won\'t have the strength to survive, unless, perhaps, the piece is carefully glued and then set on a shelf, never to be touched again...

All the same, good, strong 5-minute epoxy can almost always be found at the hardware store. Another great place to look for hobby supplies is a plastics specialty store, such as TAP Plastics. There\'s one in my neighborhood and I shop there regularly.

 

[sivousplay]

No offense taken, but you\'ll note that I didn\'t suggest epoxying the foot to a base, I suggested sculpting a base out of epoxy putty (epoxy does not equal epoxy putty ... one is a glue ... one is not) and then gluing the foot to the base. After sculpting the rock (w/ the putty) you can use the foot of the angel to create a depression in the rock that is the \"perfect negative\" of the foot giving you a very nice surface to glue to. You can even build up the rock a bit to go around the foot so that the foot and the rock become one.

Given a \"1st-time converter\" it seemed a solution that required the fewest tools and new skills was the most appropriate.

Also, given the figure, it\'d seemed pretty likely that this was a diorama piece that would just sit on a shelf and not see a lot of handling. I used this technique for a diorama myself ... the Vengeance of Smaug that is posted on CoolMini and the piece had 8-12 oz of pyrite attached to a completely custom base and dragon\'s tail with nothing but some glue and epoxy putty sculpted to create a channel for the tail. The piece saw a lot of handling while it was painted and never budged.

I hope this description makes it a little more clear what I was suggesting.

jim

 

[Lowrianne]

The angel now stands proudly atop an epoxy putty rock. But I dropped the dragon and the tail and wing went flying. *sigh* back to the glue.

 

[Thri-Keen Priest]

Repairs with Epoxy & Putty

Sivious, I see what you mean now. I suppose I had envisioned a more tenuous connection because I personally wouldn\'t want to \"buttress\" the foot with \"rock\" as it would look unnatural, like the angel was sinking, or being \"grabbed\" by the earth. In cases like these, I just prefer to drill and pin to make a strong, yet minimal, connection point. I feel it can add a lot of life to a model to pose it standing on one foot, with only a toe touching the base, as though it is running or jumping. But I understand that not everyone wants to go to this much trouble.

 

[Bent Brush]

Broken Dragon Wings & Tail

I am not certain of the Dragon you are painting.

I have found the following process helps prevent heavy metal models from breaking.

When doing a multi-piece model, Drill a hole through each wing where the connections will intersect the body. In the corresponding location on the body, drill down in to the body a good distance.

Now in those holes in the wings first glue a finishing nail. Possibly two holes done this way depending on how heavy the wings are. Once they are dry fit the nail(s) into the body section with the corresponding holes. Clip nails as necessary to appropriate length.

Once you have a nice fit glue the second part of the nail(s) (now sticking out of the wing) in to the appropriate hole.

After it dries use some 2 part Epoxy to fill the original nail hole and any cracks that may remain.

This wing will not be coming off. At last not with out some serious effort. The model will bend the wing will break someplace other than this join.

My Harlequin Forest Dragon (fully metal) has wings that weigh in excess of a 1/3 of a pound each and this process was has worked wonders for keeping them in place.

I used a similar process for the tail of this beast.

Hope this helps.

 

[Vallan]

Is it fixed...

I have to know, is it fixed? And if so have you posted it? And if so whats the number? And if so... I ran out of \'em. Oh well, PLEASE don\'t leave me hanging!
:flip::bouncy::flip:

 

[airhead]

paper clips

I have found that paper clips can be used to pin most things. More available and cheaper than finish nails (although not quite as strong). Cann\'t remember the drill bit size, but have one in an old xacto large handle that just fits the wire in a paper clip. (I will be in trouble if it ever breaks)