Ork Bigboss Submission: Tips Needed...

[MPJ]

Please pick this submission at http://www.coolminiornot.com/283719 apart.

You don't need to say anything nice, my skin is pretty thick. I thought the mini looked pretty good in my hands and was initially a bit disappointed in the voting results (on the bottom end of my usual submissions), but the more I look at the pictures the more I'm starting to agree with the votes so I'd like some comments and criticisms to help me improve the rest of my 40k Ork army which I'm planning to paint in a similar scheme.

My initial thoughts were that the picture was just to big, thus blowing up the flaws, but I think now that was more vanity on my part.

For those that don't wish to to pop back and forth from the voty page above:

Thank you kindly,

MPJ

 

[10 ball]

You need to deepen the shadows. Like between the fingers should be extreme, the yellows need more shading and contrast. Thin the paints and build up the colours.

 

[freakinacage]

what he said, some of the brush marks are a bit visible due to thickness.

there is some static grass on the back pack and mould lines on the underside of his gun

 

[SkelettetS]

yep. yellow colours is very unforgiving as it takes a million layers to get an smooth basecoat, even when its not dilluted. but more thin layers of paint is far better than a few cloggy ones. i woulnt choose to paint an army of bad moons..
also that mouldline on the gun probably affect the score, people tend to treat such thing pretty rough on this site

 

[supervike]

I think there needs to be more contrast in the skin colors. Maybe a thin purplish tone underneath the muscles, betwixt the fingers and such.

 

[BPI]

Shrink the pic by about a third.

Agree with comments above. Neaten up prep before painting commences. Increase definition between different elements. The yellow & brown are too close in colour to not need something, whether a basic darkline of fancy-pants blendy shading

My guess was 5.5, he's sat on 5.6 as I look, so about right I think.

A bit of time working on those areas mentioned and your next model should be a full point better, at least! It's nice confident looking painting that just needs a bit of refinement and sticking your work up online for crits is big step forward all on it's own. Keep it up :good:

Cheers, B.

PS Just noticed, yellow pattern on one trouser leg looks like a pattern from the front but a mis-brush from the rear. That needs to be tightened up a lot and putting it on both legs would help it to "read" as a pattern. If you will choose yellow over black though...

 

[sm51498]

Go back and glaze the yellow with the mid tone and that will help smooth out the layers.

 

[MPJ]

Great tips, thanks all.

I'm still going to go ahead and make an entire army of Bad Moons, but I'm going to limit the yellow more on the boys. I haven't actually varnished this model yet so I will implement some of the ideas above on this one to see how it improves. From 3 feet away it looks great but under closer scrutiny is where it falls apart thus the looking for advice from my fellow painters. I will be taking these tips with my for the rest of my Orks.

Thank you kindly,
MPJ

 

[Aliengod3]

What I like to do for recessed shadows is dampen my brush a little bit, dip the brush in the shadow color, paint across my palette to get the paint flowing off the brush correctly, and then I just run the brush into the recessed area for a quick deep recessed shadow. This will help with the fingers, the stitches, muscle definition, and other such things. You'll need a pretty thin paint brush to do it but the result is nice

 

[Azouzoo]

It's a very good start and you are very brave to go with the badmoons, yellow I find is real nightmare to get right, it's the main reason my Orks are just prepped and not painted, I'm too yellow to paint yellow.